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post #1 of 21 (permalink) Old 04-19-2002, 01:55 AM Thread Starter
 
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Working on a project...BSB/G Vandenberg?! - Need advice and

OK, I bought this Vandenberg in need of a new paintjob and (over the course of two months) have Sanded down to bare wood and replaced the single in the neck position with a humbucker. *I can't keep any of the original color due to it being "rock-it" pink, think Pepto. *Anyway, I have a tone zone and Air Norton to go in this Poplar body, Maple/Ebony neck/FB guitar. *I have the original controls (V-T-3 way LP type switch) and Kahler spyder. *I have blue and green Stew Mac color tone stains and have mixed pretty close to the BSB stain color, but I like it a bit more blue. *I plan on burning, staining, and putting tung oil over everything that is not ebony (read:body/headstock/back of neck). *What do you think? *See any problems looming that I haven't thought of? *How exactly did Ibanez do their BSB Jems? *Also, I am thinking of changing the electronics around by buying the (ridiculously priced) EP-1111 switch from DiMarzio that was used in the JPM. *JPM owners, is the middle position (inside coils) sound worth it? *Thanks for any suggestions.
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Ibanez blowtorch/Burn the body and then stain and then oil it. Very nice finish, especially the way it fades over time
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When You say "oil" it...do you mean tung oil, or did they use something else? *I haven't applied the tung oil to anything yet to test and can't say that I remember exactly how the last BSB I saw felt.
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That middle position on the JPM is quite beautiful, and gives you that crisp clean tone that no other guitar can get, unless you put the pickups in. *You don't need to buy a 3-way switch, you can get the 5-way turned into one, but like everything in this great country you need $$. *That's my opinion!
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When You say "oil" it...do you mean tung oil, or did they use something else? *I haven't applied the tung oil to anything yet to test and can't say that I remember exactly how the last BSB I saw felt.
Yep, I do believe it is tung oil. How it feels? when you've just stained it, it'll feel matt and quite cool, and as you play it more the neck gets smoother and less stained. Very nice.
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If I might make a suggestion, I used a heat gun to burn my RG750 (project to be completed this summer) *- it worked quite well, and it's a lot safer than taking a blow torch to your guitar
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If I might make a suggestion, I used a heat gun to burn my RG750 (project to be completed this summer) *- it worked quite well, and it's a lot safer than taking a blow torch to your guitar
Well, um, actually I have already done it. *I get what you are saying...about the burning. *I almost did that once, but otherwise it has been going pretty well.
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The middle position is amazing sounding, I would not go with out it. *Though if you want you could always just do a coil tap like the JS series, that way you would retain the three way switching and you would get even more coil-splitting options.
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That middle position on the JPM is quite beautiful, and gives you that crisp clean tone that no other guitar can get
Dunno... my Parker has the same switching, and it gets quite an amazing clean twang out of that middle position. The original pickups in the Fly are based on the Tone Zone and Air Norton, so it's not too far off, i'm sure.

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post #10 of 21 (permalink) Old 04-21-2002, 05:52 PM
 
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May I suggest a lighter and a can of deoderant???? *If it does not work on the guitar get your roadie/mate to stand behind your amp at your next gig and let him be your pyro man, you will have the best smelling gig around too!! :laugh:

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May I suggest a lighter and a can of deoderant???? *If it does not work on the guitar get your roadie/mate to stand behind your amp at your next gig and let him be your pyro man, you will have the best smelling gig around too!! :laugh:

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ah yes, I can see it now. *The lights are bright and I'm starting to sweat, but Luckily I can just rub the guitar on my underarms and dryness is my reward!
Seriously though, which deodorant has the best tone? *Arrid? *Mennen? *I've heard that Right Guard has a nice Midrangey-thing going...
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post #12 of 21 (permalink) Old 05-04-2002, 07:18 PM
 
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Well this opens up a whole new can of worms...

Really there are two routes to take.

Deodarent or Anti Perspirant.

Whislt one may have more pungent quality, the other will be more personally satisfying in the dryness dept.

If you are a shredder I would recommend anti perspirant, if more laid back blues then deodarent.

If blues if your game I would recommend a UK brand by the name of Lynx. otherwise go for Sure.
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Well this opens up a whole new can of worms...

Really there are two routes to take.

Deodarent or Anti Perspirant.
If you are a shredder I would recommend anti perspirant, .
I disagree... I would think a shredder would want more of the Lysol type of approach. Or would that be along the industrial metal lines?
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post #14 of 21 (permalink) Old 05-06-2002, 12:31 AM Thread Starter
 
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Well now I'm stumped...I play mostly progressive, so I'm not sure either is eactly right. I think I'll try Mitchum, it seems to be middle of the road.
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post #15 of 21 (permalink) Old 06-13-2002, 12:08 AM Thread Starter
 
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Guys, I got the guitar finished, but I don't know how to post pictures. Can somebody help me out here? Do I have to have them up on a website or can I upload them here somewhere?
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