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post #1 of 12 (permalink) Old 04-21-2012, 02:42 PM Thread Starter
 
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Would you trade a 2000 Am Strat Deluxe for a 1996 Hamer Artist Gataso????

I have a 2000 Fender American Strat Deluxe that I took in trade (Strat + $700 cash) for my Soldano Lucky 13 head.
It has Mark Knopfler pickups and sounds incredible.
I have never really gotten along with Strats, mostly because I always find myself looking for more sustain and harmonics than most single coils offer.

A friend of mine has a 1996 Hamer Artist Gataso in Natural finish that he wants to trade for the Strat.
It is really beautiful. I played it once, but not for more than a couple of minutes.
I seem to remember it felt similar to my McCarty that I had at the time.


Here is the only reason I am hesitating.....
I had tendonitis several years ago. I tried everything to get rid of it. Finally, I went to an old Chinese guy in Temple City, CA that did Chi Gong and Accupuncture on my wrist. After several painful hours of treatment and 2 weeks of recovery, it went away and has not been back since!
At the time I was playing a Jackson Soloist and an Ibanez 542R, both guitars had very fast necks, but very flat fretboard radii.
Since that time, I have discovered that flatter radii greatly affect my comfort level. My wrist will start hurting very quickly playing a flat fretboard.

The Hamer (according to their site, which only lists the new guitars) has a radius of 14.5.
The Strat has a radius of 9.5" and is fairly easy to play.
My main guitars are an Ibanez JS-1000 and an Ibanez 540R (with JS-1000 neck), which both have a 250mm (9.8" radius). These necks are very fast and super comfortable for me to play. The thickness of these necks is a little bit smaller than I like, but overall, they are pretty perfect for me.

I played a PRS McCarty for years. The neck was much thicker than my Ibanez JS necks, but was super comfortable.
The Ibanez JS neck to me is like a Corvette, smaller, more agile, and very fast. The PRS was like a Cadillac, very comfortable, still fast but not a sports car.


Anyway.....The Hamer looks interesting and is very rare on a small island. I haven't bonded with the Strat at all.
I'm just nervous about the radius thing.
Any opinions would be greatly welcome!
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Re: Would you trade a 2000 Am Strat Deluxe for a 1996 Hamer Artist Gataso????

If your Strategy feels good, and the only issues are the tone and sustain--keep it!
Dump a single-sized humbucker in there and swap out the trem block for a brass one.



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Re: Would you trade a 2000 Am Strat Deluxe for a 1996 Hamer Artist Gataso????

Is it better to have a guitar you did not bond with but can play or a guitar you may bond with but can not play? Thats fairly easy to answer

Sustain issue on a strat can be addressed i many different ways and there are single coiled strats sustaining for days. Get a nice calaham bridge , larger block, make sure neck joint is free of paint, get a baseplate for the singles (also from calaham), change the pickups and the nut and so on.
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Re: Would you trade a 2000 Am Strat Deluxe for a 1996 Hamer Artist Gataso????

Thanks guys,
Moment of weakness I guess. I talked to the guy some more and it turns out that the guitar is neck heavy and needs some fretwork anyway.

On the Strat, I have a few questions if you guys don't mind:
1. What nut material would be best for sustain and warmth, but also heavy tremolo use? My other guitars have Edge trems on them and I have grown very used to using them.

2. Do baseplates really work?

Thanks again.
On a side note, that same friend has a Big Apple Strat with Duncan humbuckers and a Warmoth rosewood neck with pao ferro fretboard that he says is too dark sounding. I might check that Strat out for a trade. Mine has a maple neck and is very bright.
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Re: Would you trade a 2000 Am Strat Deluxe for a 1996 Hamer Artist Gataso????

Strat trems are not made for for divebombing. Best combo i would say would be locking tuners and a graphtech nut . And yes the baseplates do work. You can always get a rosewood neck for yours and than get a 70's headstock which also will help with sustain.
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Re: Would you trade a 2000 Am Strat Deluxe for a 1996 Hamer Artist Gataso????

I've been thinking about trying to trade the Strat Deluxe for a PRS CE22 or CE24 locally.

By the time I change the block, nut, (already has locking tuners), base plates or new pups, etc. I'll have a ton of money invested in a guitar that I just might not play very much.

I guess the other side of it is, I can sell the body and get a Warmoth mahogany body to make the guitar sound warmer.
Too many choices.......
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Re: Would you trade a 2000 Am Strat Deluxe for a 1996 Hamer Artist Gataso????

Gotta make up your mind I play almost only PRS these days and would take a Custom 22 or McCarty over a Strat any day.
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Re: Would you trade a 2000 Am Strat Deluxe for a 1996 Hamer Artist Gataso????

PRS CE models are some of the best bolt on guitars out there. Check them outi would trade a Strat for one of those in a heartbeat.
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Re: Would you trade a 2000 Am Strat Deluxe for a 1996 Hamer Artist Gataso????

Thanks cm_17.
The only experience I have had with CE's is a couple of CE-24's.

They were both so beat up that I couldn't really bond with them.
One had the Wide Thin neck and was very similar to the couple of CU-24's I had in the past. I would have kept it, but had a McCarty and CU22 (both with Wide Fat necks) at the time and money was tight.

The other had a Regular Neck carve. It reminded me a lot of a Strat.
That guitar was so beat up though. I ended up replacing the frets with stainless and it was a lot better to play, but had a maple fretboard so it was way too bright for me.
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Re: Would you trade a 2000 Am Strat Deluxe for a 1996 Hamer Artist Gataso????

Monsta - does that Hamer Artist have the Wilkinson wrap-tail bridge or a tune-o-matic? I used to have a '96 Hamer Studio with the wrap tail (and a back bevel that made it very PRS-like) and I thought they were also doing that bridge on the "basic" Artist model at that time. If it does have the wrap tail then it definitely is a rare one since they only did that for about year or so.

By the way - I have owned two American Deluxe Strats (a 1998 and a 2004) and neither one stuck around very long; I would do the deal for the Hamer if you really liked it. In fact that '96 Hamer I used to own is one of only 3 guitars that have come and gone over the years I would like to have back - along with a '99 Fender '62RI Strat that was the best Fender I ever owned (and that includes a owning a couple of Fender CS Strats) and a 2002 G&L ASAT Special Deluxe (original verision with an "american tila"/basswood body and maple top; these use mahogany bodies these days, plus I hate the current G&L fat shouldered necks)
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Re: Would you trade a 2000 Am Strat Deluxe for a 1996 Hamer Artist Gataso????

Thanks John,
I ended up not trading for it. It does have the wrap around bridge though.
I'm not much of a collector. If I don't play it at least once a week, I sell it. I just don't have the funds or the room for too much gear right now.
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Re: Would you trade a 2000 Am Strat Deluxe for a 1996 Hamer Artist Gataso????

I understand about the playing versus collecting thing; I usually only keep 2-3 around at any one time but I've gone through way to many guitars over the years.

I just always liked the feel and playability of the Hamers with the wrap-tail over the ones with the tune-o-matic; since they are Hamers the fact that the wrap-tails are more rare doesn't really make them more collectable than the tune-o-matic versions. It is probably the pre-set arc of the wrap-tail that made that 14.5" radius feel better to me; I typically don't care for guitars with something flatter than a 12" radius. That one I sold off (to fund a Les Paul that turned out to be a disaster) was about the only Hamer I've ever bonded with.
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