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post #1 of 10 (permalink) Old 12-02-2003, 01:18 AM Thread Starter
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ZR Trems

Hello,
I am a newbie to this forum and really enjoy it. Anyway, my question regards the ZR trems on the new S Series. I must say that I did try an s470 with this trem and loved it. I liked the feel, solid, yet smooth. Sort of like an improved, sleeker and slicker version of the kahler I have on one of my HM Strats. I can't wait to see what it can do without the zero stop bar. The extra weight issue... I can't comment on that since I do not remember how my old S540LTD felt or weighed. Anyway, the guitar itself felt pretty light to me considering that I have been playing strats for a while now. Back to the question.... Sorry. Speaking of the Zero stop bar; how complicated is it to remove the zero stop bar?
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post #2 of 10 (permalink) Old 12-03-2003, 08:12 PM
 
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Hello,
the way to remove the zero stop bar is very easy.
First,you should take off the back-panel.
Second,you set tremolo bar on ZR,and turn tremolo bar toward body-end.

Third, turn your guitar inside out,and please arm up. Grasp the zero stop bar and pull it toward body-end,so you can remove it.(You shoul remove it with sub-springs)

If your guitar is in tune when the zero stop bar is set,you only have to adjust the spring tension.

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post #3 of 10 (permalink) Old 12-05-2003, 01:02 AM
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can anyone explain how the ZR works?
why is it so good? is it easy to change strings?
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post #4 of 10 (permalink) Old 12-05-2003, 03:46 AM
 
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The ZR trem was designed to solve the problems of Floyde Rose in play-ability and set-up . So ZR has a lot of advantages.

1. Ball bearings pivot
ZR has ball bearings pivot to provide great tuning stability and smooth actiion. The nife edge has a limitation in tuning stability because of the structure and production. The instability of heat treatment cause dispersion of quality.
And the great point of ZR is tuning stability without zero stop bar.When the bridge is floating, it also performances greatly like with zero stop bar.

2.Zero Point System(ZPS)
The floating bridge has always two problems. If a string break down,we can not continue playing . And tuning of floating bridge is very very difficult! If the ZPS is set correctly, the tuning is very easy because ZPS makes zero point. And by the differential of force between main-springs and sub-springs, it keeps the balance when a stirng break down.(Of course in the case when the setting is correct )
And for the zero point ,the bridge is stabilized far better than a floating bridge in any case, and it makes long sustain.
The differences between ZPS and other back-stop mechanisms are "ZPS has no cylinder-structure,so ZPS is much smoother than others" and "we can select non-floating or floating easily".

3.Intonation adjustment
ZR can be adjusted the location of intonation with built-in screw.So the saddle lock screws are offseted against strings.
I recomend you should adjust in state with zero stop bar because without zero stop bar ,the location of bridge is instable.

4.Tremolo bar socket
ZR's tremolo bar socket designed to adjust the torque and bar-heigt.And another good point is the less-play of the bar when it is set.

5.Spring tension adjustment
Spring tension can be adjusted at one place, so you can easily adjust it.
Particularly in floating state, it will be much advantage.

6. Material of saddles
The material of saddles is storngly heat treatmented iron. So it makes bright sounds and long sustain.

7. The distance between saddle point and locking point
ZR's saddle is designed to minimize the distance between saddle point and locking point because to provide good tuning stability. So the lock-pad has special shape.

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post #5 of 10 (permalink) Old 12-05-2003, 04:08 AM
 
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Sorry, I've forgotten other sales point.

8. the string action when arming
Floyde Rose's string action is too ups and downs against the body.ZR's string action is almostly stable because of the location of pivot.

9.Pitch curve
Floyde's pitch curve is too intensive, so it is hard to play with delicate emotional touch. ZR is deseigned to adapt modern music, so we can easily performance with delicate nuance.

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post #6 of 10 (permalink) Old 01-05-2004, 04:24 PM
 
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So... When will these lovely things (ZR Trems) be available in retail box form? Where & for how much? I'm chomping at the bit do install one of these into something.
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post #7 of 10 (permalink) Old 01-05-2004, 07:31 PM
 
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Sorry,ZR trem is not sold as retail box.Because there are many patents and ZR is very original for Ibanez.
And the price will be far higher than Edge-pro or Lo-pro. And also the routing is very special,so you can't replace to the other guitars.
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Originally Posted by ZRmaster
Sorry,ZR trem is not sold as retail box.Because there are many patents and ZR is very original for Ibanez.
And the price will be far higher than Edge-pro or Lo-pro. And also the routing is very special,so you can't replace to the other guitars.
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so... would a ZR fit on a RG with an edge/lo-pro?
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post #9 of 10 (permalink) Old 01-05-2004, 11:54 PM
 
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No, it requires a drastically different routing and anchor system compared to the Edge. Hopefully they will release some RGs with the ZR system in 2004
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post #10 of 10 (permalink) Old 01-06-2004, 10:25 AM
 
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Originally Posted by ZRmaster
Sorry,ZR trem is not sold as retail box.Because there are many patents and ZR is very original for Ibanez.
And the price will be far higher than Edge-pro or Lo-pro. And also the routing is very special,so you can't replace to the other guitars.
Thanks.
But if the unit has a part number (2ZRT1RNK) can't it just be ordered somehow??
The routing isn't a big deal because I'd be installing in a fresh body anyway & then I could make jigs & templates for it.
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