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post #1 of 10 (permalink) Old 04-15-2010, 07:55 PM Thread Starter
 
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ZR TUNING HEAD PROBLEM

hello there guys....i am not quite sure if this is a problem or not. i have a S-570DXQM. i noticed that the tuning head for the "A" string (the one on the ZR trem) dosent have that much slack or room for tuning compared to the other tuners. is that how it supposed to be?
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post #2 of 10 (permalink) Old 04-21-2010, 06:42 PM
 
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Re: ZR TUNING HEAD PROBLEM

Hi,

it's very strange. All tuning heads are the same for all saddles.
I think it's not a real problem but you can change it by order
the single part.
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Re: ZR TUNING HEAD PROBLEM

Maybe you're noticing is what I do, the fine tuner takes more turns to get the same adjustment on the A as opposed to the other strings? I think it has to do with the A strings tension and gauge. I only have two trem equipped guitars, both ZRs, and both exhibit this..
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Hi,

it's very strange. All tuning heads are the same for all saddles.
I think it's not a real problem but you can change it by order
the single part.
i know on the FR trem all of the tuning heads are all equal on length. maybe you right, its not a problem. its my first ZR trem so i think you can understand my ignorance on the matter hahahahah. i am bit hesitant in changing the order cuz the "A" sting tuning head rarely gets detuned.
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Maybe you're noticing is what I do, the fine tuner takes more turns to get the same adjustment on the A as opposed to the other strings? I think it has to do with the A strings tension and gauge. I only have two trem equipped guitars, both ZRs, and both exhibit this..
hmmm...you mean its an issue on gauge and the tension on the "A" string? ill check on that one on my guitar and see what happends. you have 2 guitars with ZR and both of them shows the same scenatio? (the "A" tuning head on th ZR trem has less room for adjustment)
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hmmm...you mean its an issue on gauge and the tension on the "A" string? ill check on that one on my guitar and see what happends. you have 2 guitars with ZR and both of them shows the same scenatio? (the "A" tuning head on th ZR trem has less room for adjustment)
My bad, I was a bit tipsy, it's my B string I was talking about that does it the most. But it's true for all my string to some degree, some take more turns for the same amount of adjustment in pitch. It's because gauge and tension factor in.

But I think we should clarify your question.. Now you say that it doesn't have much room for adjustment? Meaning in both directions, or just one? If in both directions, the threads might be stripped?
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My bad, I was a bit tipsy, it's my B string I was talking about that does it the most. But it's true for all my string to some degree, some take more turns for the same amount of adjustment in pitch. It's because gauge and tension factor in.

But I think we should clarify your question.. Now you say that it doesn't have much room for adjustment? Meaning in both directions, or just one? If in both directions, the threads might be stripped?

its in both direction.
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Re: ZR TUNING HEAD PROBLEM

If you look at the back of the bridge, you'll see that the saddles are all at different heights. If you make the fine tuners 'neutral' by making them flat across the top, the middle strings get less adjustment upwards than they would otherwise. Coupled with string guage and intonation, which both affect the amount of pitch you can get out of the fine tuners, this might be your problem.

Regardless, I've got 2 guitars with ZRs, one a 7 string, and there is ample adjustment range on both provided the strings are put on properly and stretched.
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If you look at the back of the bridge, you'll see that the saddles are all at different heights. If you make the fine tuners 'neutral' by making them flat across the top, the middle strings get less adjustment upwards than they would otherwise. Coupled with string guage and intonation, which both affect the amount of pitch you can get out of the fine tuners, this might be your problem.

Regardless, I've got 2 guitars with ZRs, one a 7 string, and there is ample adjustment range on both provided the strings are put on properly and stretched.

ill try that today and see what happends.
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If you look at the back of the bridge, you'll see that the saddles are all at different heights. If you make the fine tuners 'neutral' by making them flat across the top, the middle strings get less adjustment upwards than they would otherwise. Coupled with string guage and intonation, which both affect the amount of pitch you can get out of the fine tuners, this might be your problem.

Regardless, I've got 2 guitars with ZRs, one a 7 string, and there is ample adjustment range on both provided the strings are put on properly and stretched.

youre right mann.... it just took me a while to get back at my guitar but it worked out fine. its just the string tention and a lilttle bit of intonation adjustment. thanks a lot for the tip. it was very helpfull.
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