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post #1 of 42 (permalink) Old 01-14-2004, 09:25 PM Thread Starter
 
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'03 trem post repair

Hi Everybody!

I just got a Jem7vwh '03 for christmas.
tonight, one of the trem posts pulled out of the body probably 1/8"
(i mean the anchor that the post screws into)
It pulled out far enough to chip the paint.

What do I do?

p.s. I've been over at vai.com all this time & forgot that I registered here!
duh.
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post #2 of 42 (permalink) Old 01-15-2004, 12:47 AM
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You can just push it back down but I'd pull it out and put some wood glue around the inside edge of the hole so it doesn't happen again!
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post #3 of 42 (permalink) Old 01-15-2004, 01:53 PM Thread Starter
 
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(in Homer's voice) MMMMM wooood glue.

My god, I just freaked for little while.
I thought it was the end of my guitar.
whew!
thank's Rich!
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Tonight I pulled the anchor, applied some wood glue to the hole and stuck the anchor back in. Done.

a few people suggested that I shove toothpicks in there but there's no room. After all my theatrics, it wasn't that bad after all

Strange though that the actual post wiggles inside the anchor.
could teflon tape solve that problem?

I figure I'll let it dry overnight & check on it after work tomorrow.
Possibly try the teflon tape on the threads.
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That tends to be the problem with these non locking studs

The teflon won't work, tried it.
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i'm going blind from reading all these posts about it but
i'm finally beginning to understand.

All this time I thought it was just the knife edges getting stuck on the post like my old kahler used to do.

It's really the whole bridge moving back & forth because the studs are loose!

uhhh. well, mine needs to be fixed. it's only the post on the treble side.
shame on Ibanez for letting this happen.
mine came in at $1809.00 with the case & shouldn't need any modification.

ps. shame on Ibanez for killing off the backstop too.
I have what's been called a "bad picking technique" or a heavy pick hand
I'm using 10's & my bridge flutters when I pick.
My SRV Strat has 11-58 on it but the springs are very tight...No flutter.
I dont' want to do that to this Jem.
I've read though that the "tremsetter" offers too much resistance.
I guess I'll just have to get luck someday & happen accross one of 'em.

Oh, Thanks for the heads-up on the teflon Rich.
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post #7 of 42 (permalink) Old 01-16-2004, 08:23 AM
 
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I agree...shame on ibanez for getting cheap with their hardware in '03...fortunately, the fix (installing posts with set screws) is pretty easy, and pretty cheap. I have the same guitar (2003 Jem7VWH) and tuning stability after whammy pullups is still noticably a little off, even after the locking posts are installed. how's yours?

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post #8 of 42 (permalink) Old 01-16-2004, 10:26 AM Thread Starter
 
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I don't have the locking studs yet.
I'm going to restring it tonight & check it all out.
that one stud is REALLY loose inside the anchor.

I know THIS though....
I can pull up to a D on the G string
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yeah, the 3rd string (also the 2nd string) on my guitar is the least stable...when you say you can pull up to a D, when you let the bar return, is it back to perfect tuning or is it a tad sharp?
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I touch up the knives on all new guitars, not saying they're all "perfect" but very rarely do I have I consider "problematic".
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I noticed you said you rarely have to file the rounded knife edge, but when I look at mine, on my 03 edge pro, it doens't look as sharp as the one in the picture on your tech site. In fact, it looks as flat as the straight knife edge. is this common? I'm gonna go out and get me some files and keep my fingers crossed...

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I need to update that page, I clean up the curved sides as much as the straight. You have to be careful though, it may look wide and flat when in actuality it's backcut on a slight angle and very sharp.
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so do you aim for the same width and thickness on the curved side? I assume so...but just wanted to double check. I've read that page top to bottom a dozen times now...and now I have my files. anything else I should know before I start?? :-)

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You want the same profile on both sides
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yeah, the 3rd string (also the 2nd string) on my guitar is the least stable...when you say you can pull up to a D, when you let the bar return, is it back to perfect tuning or is it a tad sharp?
I havent noticed it being that bad yet. My habit is to kind of wiggle the bar a little both ways before letting it go. Something I picked up from playing strats all these years. anyway, It usually depends on the day. maybe even what room i'm playing in. it's been like 10 degrees here for a few days now & the cold really seems to affect this guitar.
I've also noticed that even when I have this thing completely in tune when holding it in "playing position", if I tilt it forward, it goes flat & if I tilt it backward, it goes sharp!

so I anchored the stud & restrung it. (high e snapped immediately)
either I need to swap saddles with one from the low side or file down the insert. anyway. after going through the motions of tuning & adjusting spring tension, I let it sit for an hour or so then took it out to my buddies practice pad to play.

when I got the guitar out again, the pull-up only went 1 step & then it felt like the bridge was getting stuck. It goes all the way when forced.
i just checked it again after being in the warm house in it's case all night.
and when pulling up, you can actually feel and hear the resistance!
Something is rubbing on something and it actually sounds like fingers on a chalk board.
I just noticed that it almost seems like the bridge wants to pivot away from the treble-side stud on a pull-up.
right now, my springs are adjusted pretty evenly.
I wonder, should I tighten the spring on the treble side & loosen the bass side i bit?
I dunno. for almost $2000.00 this guitar, so far, is not impressing me at all! Aside from it's stunning looks and feel. I guess it would be ok if not for this new bridge.

or, is this all part of the "breaking in" process?
It would probably help immensely but I'm not ready to be filing knife edges or any of that stuff.
it's not even a month old!
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