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post #1 of 11 (permalink) Old 02-27-2018, 09:33 AM Thread Starter
 
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'91 Ibanez Edge Saddles

Are the saddles supposed to have something at the bottom stopping the string from touching the baseplate of the guitar?
I was changing strings (for the first time ever on a FR) and one of the blocks that tightens the string came out. I had a TERRIBLE time trying to get them back in because they kept falling through to the bottom.
I looked and a youtube video showed a guy's Floyd Rose (not edge) and it had little "pads" at the bottom the saddle to stop the string from touching the baseplate, these do not. Should they?
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Re: '91 Ibanez Edge Saddles

diagram here
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Re: '91 Ibanez Edge Saddles

Yeah saw that diagram many times last night as I googled for an answer.
I appreciate the reply; it doesn't seem to actually help answer the question. Unless maybe I am missing something?

The "string lock block" was just sliding through and going to the bottom.
Sadly that picture and almost any other picture does not show the bottom of the actual saddle itself in enough detail for me to understand if the saddle has any type of "pad" or bottom to stop the lock block from just falling through the hole in the saddle.

For better reference maybe this picture will help:

I am not inquiring about the brighter colored copper that is a shim in this picture but actually the darker brass "inside" the saddle itself.
Do Original Ibanez Edge saddles have this? Or are they supposed to?
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Re: '91 Ibanez Edge Saddles

Don't have saddles handy but from memory, the baseplate makes the floor (unless a shim is used). The indent of the "string lock block" keeps that in place via "string lock screw". Don't loosen the screw more than needed to pull out the string and this should never be an issue in my experience. YMMV.
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Don't have saddles handy but from memory, the baseplate makes the floor (unless a shim is used). The indent of the "string lock block" keeps that in place via "string lock screw". Don't loosen the screw more than needed to pull out the string and this should never be an issue in my experience. YMMV.
This is my first Ibanez, first Floyd Rose etc.
I didn't intend to pull it out too far but I did somehow, LOTS of learning going on for sure.
I think maybe the saddle had been shimmed, I am going to try to go to a local guy and have him look at it with me.

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Re: '91 Ibanez Edge Saddles

goes right back in i recommend taking the trem off your guitar and really examining it vs the diagram it will be a great learning opportunity. quick saddle shim search picture attached... would go under the saddle & be held in with the "intonation lock screw". You don't need them typically with 430mm radius neck.
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goes right back in i recommend taking the trem off your guitar and really examining it vs the diagram it will be a great learning opportunity. quick saddle shim search picture attached... would go under the saddle & be held in with the "intonation lock screw". You don't need them typically with 430mm radius neck.
I appreciate the help.
I was nervous to take the whole thing apart thinking I would never get it back together and setup correctly etc.
I may need to just do it.
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Re: '91 Ibanez Edge Saddles

Edge saddles have a little plate under the lock block that acts as a floor of the saddle. They break off, once it breaks off the lock has no bas to sit against and falls thru. You can use tape like the garage fix above.
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Edge saddles have a little plate under the lock block that acts as a floor of the saddle. They break off, once it breaks off the lock has no bas to sit against and falls thru. You can use tape like the garage fix above.
Do you mean the picture I posted?
I would suspect the plate sort of sits up a little in the saddle?
or is flush ok?
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It's flush. It's almost like it's tacked on at it's corners [I don't know how you do that with zinc] but once they fail and fall off you lose the base of the saddle that prevents the lock block from falling thru.
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Re: '91 Ibanez Edge Saddles

On the high e-string you don't need to turn back the screw so much that the block will fall through, because the string is thin enough and the screw will still hold the block with the indentation. You can exchange saddles, if it is not already the saddle of the high e-string.
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