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post #1 of 7 (permalink) Old 09-10-2004, 03:48 AM Thread Starter
 
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Adding spring tension on trem...

Im about to replace the standard 3 springs on a lo pro edge. Im replacing them with 2 47mm springs in a V configuration so I can bend in tune better. My friend is telling me I will have to move the saddles forward because adding more spring tension will throw off the intonation. Is this true? Or can I just swap the 2 springs in there and then make the trem angle?

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You're not adding spring tension, you're adding springs that are harder to open. Use 3 if you really want to keep double stops more in tune.
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But as anyone will tell you the only way to keep your double stop bends in tune on a floating tremolo is to replace the middle spring with a tremsetter.

Anyway, to answer your question as long as you bring the trem back level the intonation will stay the same with any # of springs.

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You're not adding spring tension, you're adding springs that are harder to open. Use 3 if you really want to keep double stops more in tune.

I want to keep the guitar in tune when I bend more then 1 1/2 steps to 2 full steps.

SO its just almost a plug and play mod? Slap them in and then adjust the angle perhaps?
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Pretty much, yes.
In fact, slap any # of springs in there in any configuration you want without touching anything else and then just use the spring claw holder to balance the bridge until the guitar is back in tune - you are done.

I still don't think that'll do much for the keeping in tune while bending but have a go and see if it works for you.

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3 47's will keep it much closer to in tune while bending, but as Dex said only a Tremsetter will keep it IN tune.
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Just to go a little deeper . . .

No matter what size/number of springs you put in there, when you add tension (bending the string(s)) the spring will open.

More, or stiffer, springs will open less, but they WILL open, thus dropping the pitch of the other strings.

It's a balancing act, and what happens when you add more weight (in this case, the weight is the tension on the string) to one side of a fulcrum?

To restate; a Trem-setter, or Back-Stop (if you can find one) is one way to keep in tune and keep full range on your trem . . . the other is to set the trem up for no pull-up and keep the springs over-tightened so that you can bend and stay in tune.

You can also block the trem totally, but you don't seem to want to go that road anyway, do I won't mention it. ;-)

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