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post #31 of 41 (permalink) Old 12-04-2005, 09:24 PM
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Re: Becoming a Floyd/Edge Pro Master!

As if there's a standard for how hard you fret the string to begin with, strobe or whatever. You're assuming the bridge is actually moving anything more than hundreths.

I bought a Peterson and tested it against the way I've been doing intonation for years, results, not only was the strobe just an absolute PITA to read, it gained zero improvement, and was returned.
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OK, I'm very tired, apologies for my entry, was slightly backwards. Rugby game today... got hit quite hard in the head, think it's affectng my brain slightly...

What i meant is that basically if you do file the knife edges, or get the edge back on them, it's essentially like sharpenning a knife with a steel...If you do it too thin, yes you can blunt it, but by doing so you shorten the blade, (particularly evident in filleting knives, which are extremely thin for filleting fish) and if you make this mistake more than once (easily done if you're a beginner) you can mess the intonation up surely, because the distance from bridge to 12th fret is being decreased, and thus uneven from the distance from nut to 12th...

I'm not saying that you'd ever do that Rich, or that it's common, but it is possible.

I got there in the end i think (hope)
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If you actually took that much off the knife that it did affect intonation, you have about a centimeter on adjustability built into the bridge
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shhh, i half realised that after writing, but thought if some saddles are right at the back of the bridge already, it could still just about be a problem.
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good idea.. 20 to 2 in the morning now...happy discusions everyone

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Heat treating treats the entire thickness of the metal. The whole purpose is to trap the carbon atoms inside the molecular structure of the steel. You can't file through it.
Question about heat treated and plate hardened metals. The advice I was given about plate hardened trems referred to the OFR trem. Plate treating is chemically performed I think and only hardens about 20 thousandths deep into the metal.

Is the Lo Pro not plate hardened at all ? But heat treated steel ?
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The baseplate of the lo pro is pot metal and not teeated in any way.
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I used Rich's method of Chapstick, and the results were AMAZING! I spent months and months dealing with a non returning trem. After finding his website, I was shocked at how well a little dab did me.

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Re: Becoming a Floyd/Edge Pro Master!

...ok folks, here's a new twist to the thread....TUNING.

I've noticed that bit by bit, my new 2550 is getting out of tune after the big dives and such. My microtuners are getting really low, and I have no play left in the high E. I figure it's cause the strings weren't sufficiently stretched during setup in the shop, what do you think?

I'll read around for ways to remedy, as I have the sites now, but is it possible to slack the tuners to 'reset' the microtuners, restretch, and live happily ever after? Or do I need to retune the whole guitar?

Come to think of it, those boys at the shop..I think they scammed me on the strings!...I requested Ernie Ball Hybrids, but they feel a bit stiff....I understand time is an issue during a setup as it's not a real booked shop time thing, but really...a proper setup with a floating trem seems KEY to keeping it in tune and happy!

Any suggestions?
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