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post #1 of 16 (permalink) Old 11-30-2003, 12:59 PM Thread Starter
 
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Blocking trem effect on sound ?

I wanna block my lo pro edge trem, since i never use it anyway, and use alternate tunings.
Will this have any effect on sound as well? I'm thinking lows and sustain. Some guy told me he had actually less lows after blocking his trem.

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post #2 of 16 (permalink) Old 11-30-2003, 01:17 PM
 
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I would think it would improve tone (more wood, more contact between bridge and wood), but I don't really know for sure.
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post #3 of 16 (permalink) Old 11-30-2003, 06:58 PM
 
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I do this a few times a week for my customers. I put a small wooden shim between the trem cavity & the trem block so the trem sits level. You can push down if you want, or leave the arm out. I use a small amount of white glue to secure it to the trem cavity, it can be easily knocked out with a hammer & a small chisel. My customers tell me that they pick up a bit of sustain & it warms the tone up a bit.
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post #4 of 16 (permalink) Old 12-01-2003, 12:51 AM
 
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That makes sense to me.I knocked out the trem block in my Lukather and didnt notice any difference in sound or sustain but if wood is used, you should get improvement if anything.
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Ok, thanks guys !
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post #6 of 16 (permalink) Old 01-03-2004, 10:23 AM
 
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just to revive a thread instead of making a new one.
i'm playing DropD music alot lately so decided to block off my trem (which is a shame, coz i love whammy abuse )
I have a lump of plastic wrapped in insulation tape in there. I've noticed the sound is alot smoother after using this block, and i have noticed a bit more sustain.
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post #7 of 16 (permalink) Old 01-03-2004, 10:29 AM
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you should definately get a sustain boost (assuming proper setup elsewhere), because the string will vibrate more without the bridge warbling (and counter-vibrating). i have found the method of blocking (wood, plastic, etc) to be pretty much a non-issue for tone changes. ...glen
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I'm in total agreement with Glen here,I've blocked a few RG's and all had a noticable increase in sustain,As for tone ... Thats a differant matter entirely,and personally doesn't make a discernable differance IMO

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post #9 of 16 (permalink) Old 01-04-2004, 12:52 PM
 
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Every guitar I buy with any kind of trem it gets completely blocked, on both sides of the trem block. I usually cut pieces of wood to fit into the trem block spaces, then I use picks or coins or pieces of paper to fill any gaps and get the trem completely level with the body. You'd never think a couple little pieces of paper would work well for leveling the bridge out, but it really makes a difference.

I definitely notice a slight increase in sustain and tone, which I have no problem with.
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Improved sustain.
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I hope I won't get crap for putting this on here, but former Jemsiter Kevan has patented a system for easily blocking/unblocking a floating tremolo without making any permanent alterations to your guitar (i.e. drilling any holes, etc).

He's been getting raves from industry people and they all say that their sustain improves immediately.

he did not ask me to put this here, nor does he know that i've done so.

the site is www.tremol-no.com

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Cool, not a bad idea if you don't want to bother making your own blocks . Looks pretty cool and high tech, too.
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kenny, what part of the NOTE: These products are NOT currently for sale. At the present time, we are only offering licenses to manufacture. disclaimer did you not read

either way, enough pan-handling ...glen
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Kev's a pretty cool guy. I'm sure if somebody who was a serious musician with some kind of credentials, local or otherwise came to him and had an interest, he'd probably be willing to send one out for 'field testing'.

Who is panhandling?
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I saw one of these about a month ago in Simon's BMC as he was giving it a test drive.
I'm still a bit sceptical as any small obstruction in the trem cavity leads to tuning instability and this rod thing is definately going to be in the way of perfectly floating trem.
Looks like it will be a flutter killer as well.

Will probably buy one when they start selling them just to see if I'm wrong.

ilia

p.s. did anyone happen to catch that under "links" Kev has Rachel listed and her link points to VictoriaSecrets.
Does she work there or is she a model?
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