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post #1 of 24 (permalink) Old 06-27-2012, 09:13 PM Thread Starter
 
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Chipping around trem stud.

Hey guys, this is a '00 RG520QS, I have had it for over a year (April '11) and the first time I took the trem out I noticed a small chip... well, it seems to keep growing. I have no idea what is causing it, and my worst fear is it could cause a crack down to the anchors (remember that Charvel of Vai's?).

So, has anybody seen anything like this before?



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Re: Chipping around trem stud.

Is there wood missing too? it's hard to tell from the pic (but it looks like there is)........Love the pickups!!!!!!
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Re: Chipping around trem stud.

It could be that some one tried to adjust the stud without loosing the locking bolt inside,(if there is one) Causing stress.
or dropt it? etc,

If the angor doesnt wobble and sits tight in the wood it should be no problem.
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Re: Chipping around trem stud.

Looks like one of mine before I pulled the anchor, had to remove the paint over the top. Someone either removed it once or it might be loose and moving during use, in which case you'll want to yank it out and reset it with wood glue and lots of dry time, or it will eventually oval the hole out.
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Re: Chipping around trem stud.

Thanks guys. Naw, it's solid as a rock. Yes, there is wood missing and it keeps growing. That said, It's not like I'm finding wood chips, and that kind of bothers me. It is about a millimeter deep.

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Re: Chipping around trem stud.

Termites?

Check the underside of the bridge itself and see if there's anything protruding that could dig into the wood.

I'd imagine you already thought of that, but could you post a picture of the underside of the bridge?

From the front.

There has to be something digging into the wood to cause that, and the obvious place to look is the bridge.
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Re: Chipping around trem stud.

perhaps an over length intonation securing bolt??? if one was replaced with a longer one i guess it could do that, but i'd expect you to notice something funky about the action of the trem if it was the case....
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Re: Chipping around trem stud.

Just hit the site up with super glue and forget about it.
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Re: Chipping around trem stud.

F: first put a long allen into the stud (locked) and wiggle it. Be ABSOLUTELY sure there is no movement!!!! If not, follow Jesse's advise and superglue the entire area. Don't use the gel stuff...it won't sink in. Use the old fashioned watery stuff.

If it IS wiggling, don't do anything....let us know the results first.
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Re: Chipping around trem stud.

looks higher than the other one.
ibanez puts the studs in before finishing them with clear sometimes paint).
maybe it pulled up on a pull up and lifted the finish off from above it.
wouldnt take much to crack the finish if it did and in turn lift some wood..
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Re: Chipping around trem stud.

Andrew, you could be on to something. That would make sense because (and it could just strings breaking in) the action seems to verrrry slowly creep up (months to notice). Now, that could just be strings breaking in, or could definitely be what you mentioned.

If that is the case - has that every happened to anybody, is it fixable, and if not, how long do I have before this baby is unplayable?

Ryc, it's solid.
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Re: Chipping around trem stud.

I bought mine in that condition, I didn't notice movement till I was setting it up and blocked the trem from inside the recess. That switched the leverage upward in a way that shifted the anchor just enough for me to notice. Following advice on ibanezrules, I checked the other, presumably tight anchor with as much force as I could exert on my vice grips, and sure enough it moved as well, just a hair though. I pulled them both and reset them the ibanezrules way and they're rock solid now no matter how much I abuse the bar.

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Re: Chipping around trem stud.

Here you can see the chipping on the forward side and spider cracks behind the hole. Originally it was all cracks but when I went to remove the anchor a whole chunk of wood came off similar to yours, that's why I assumed yours might have been removed or at least popped up. The discoloration down in the hole is where I had to build the oval back up with superglue and saw dust. My guess is the prior owner allowed it to get that way by not setting the lock screws inside the posts, which in turn allowed the posts to wiggle with trem use. It was a really easy fix so I wouldn't get too worked up over it, personally I would just keep a close eye on it and watch out for tuning instability, especially after heavy bar use. At the very least I would do as suggested and let some superglue soak into it, also see if you can push it in because it does look high (on second look it actually seems level but the loss of wood and finish makes it look high).


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Re: Chipping around trem stud.

Looks like the anchor pulled up and took a chunk out of the wood. I have one guitar where that's happened. Stick a long allen key down there and press on it, make sure that the anchor is seated, then apply superglue all around the edge of the stud. Let it soak for a few seconds and then keep applying. It will wick into any cracks. I use the "10" thin superglue from Stew Mac for repairs like this.

If the anchor is in any way loose and the hole is ovaled, use a stud to keep the anchor pulled towards the bridge side while doing that.
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Re: Chipping around trem stud.

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Andrew, you could be on to something. That would make sense because (and it could just strings breaking in) the action seems to verrrry slowly creep up (months to notice). Now, that could just be strings breaking in, or could definitely be what you mentioned.

If that is the case - has that every happened to anybody, is it fixable, and if not, how long do I have before this baby is unplayable?

Ryc, it's solid.
No worries Frank......your guitar will be perfectly fine, my friend. Just follow Jesse's instructions to the letter. Do yourself a favor and buy the Stew-Mac stuff (unless you have another supplier of super thin CA). This stuff will save you a world of trouble. Just play your RX for a few days while your waiting for the CA to come in.
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