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Custom brass and titanium blocks for Edge and Lo Pro Edge - any interest?

I've got the guys at Hantug Guitars (they made the sweet brass and titanium strat bridge for my strat project) looking at making some custom brass and titanium sustain blocks for Edge and Lo Pro Edge bridges.

They should be similarly shaped to the stock units, so no issues with dive or pull-up range, and also have the spring retainer bar, which should suit those who are uncomfortable with not having one hold their springs in place.

Prices should be competitive with other blocks out there, so I thought I might see if there would be any interest in them. I'll have some test units sent to me to test and review to make sure they fit and work well.
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Re: Custom brass and titanium blocks for Edge and Lo Pro Edge - any interest?

I'd be down for one that fits the ZR, i'm currently pretty happy with my OE's blocks
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I don't have a ZR block to get them to base one off I'm afraid.
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Re: Custom brass and titanium blocks for Edge and Lo Pro Edge - any interest?

I've always wondered about the properties of a metal that make it "sound good"... Brass and Titanium don't seem to have general physical properties that are all that similar, which makes me wonder if one or the other isn't just a gimic.
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They both sound quite different, definitely not a gimmick. The different makeup of the metals provide just as different a tone.
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I've always wondered about the properties of a metal that make it "sound good"... Brass and Titanium don't seem to have general physical properties that are all that similar, which makes me wonder if one or the other isn't just a gimic.
You get this in speaker design. There are two schools of thought.

One says that a speaker cabinet should aim to be 100% rigid and inert. Manufacturers go to great lengths, including solid concrete cabinets, internal bracing, etc, to stop the speaker cabinet interfering with the cones of the drivers.

The other says that since its impossible to make a 100% rigid cabinet, that this is a dead end, and that what we should be doing, is looking for a way to harness the vibrations dispersing within a thin, flexible cabinet, and make them part of the sound rather than trying to get rid of them.



Titanium, going on its vaunted properties in bicycle design, is very compliant and this translates on a bicycle, to being able to better absorb and distribute vibration from road chatter. It may be that the same properties when applied to sustain blocks, allow it to absorb vibration in the same way. Obviously in theory this would be bad but it may have some unexpected effect alike to this.
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Re: Custom brass and titanium blocks for Edge and Lo Pro Edge - any interest?

I dont use the trem on my strat so i got a large brass block made to fill the cavity....its heavy... and made the strat brite like a tele....
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Re: Custom brass and titanium blocks for Edge and Lo Pro Edge - any interest?

Here is a review I found; http://www.vintagekramer.com/company74.htm

I have mine blocked but I don't think its common to have the chance to get a custom titanium block, so serious players should at least consider this for their main guitar.

Before blocking I used some heavy magnets to increase weight on my guitars block. To me it actually did increase sustain but didn't have a noticable effect on tone.
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Re: Custom brass and titanium blocks for Edge and Lo Pro Edge - any interest?

It's that more mass is "supposed" to increase sustain.
Brass has always been favored for it's tonal properties.
Titanium was not used until recently--and I'd love to compare it to brass.
I did notice a difference when I put a brass block on one of my 770s.



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I don't have a ZR block to get them to base one off I'm afraid.

Well, it's no biggie.
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You get this in speaker design. There are two schools of thought.

One says that a speaker cabinet should aim to be 100% rigid and inert. Manufacturers go to great lengths, including solid concrete cabinets, internal bracing, etc, to stop the speaker cabinet interfering with the cones of the drivers.

The other says that since its impossible to make a 100% rigid cabinet, that this is a dead end, and that what we should be doing, is looking for a way to harness the vibrations dispersing within a thin, flexible cabinet, and make them part of the sound rather than trying to get rid of them.



Titanium, going on its vaunted properties in bicycle design, is very compliant and this translates on a bicycle, to being able to better absorb and distribute vibration from road chatter. It may be that the same properties when applied to sustain blocks, allow it to absorb vibration in the same way. Obviously in theory this would be bad but it may have some unexpected effect alike to this.
I have no idea if this is the "real" answer but I'll buy it Thank you!
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Re: Custom brass and titanium blocks for Edge and Lo Pro Edge - any interest?

Hmm, if they ever make an Edge Pro version, I'd be interested. I don't like how fat the other's that are currently on the market are (I do quite a bit of diving and pulling-up).

EDIT: Oopsie, didn't notice this was an overseas convo. Still interested though if shipping is reasonable.
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Re: Custom brass and titanium blocks for Edge and Lo Pro Edge - any interest?

They're not coming from me, but from Hantug Guitars in Turke if they get lift off. Shipping shouldn't be too bad for a small item like a block, and the prices should be comparable with e-Bay and other vendor options.

I'll keep you guys up to date on this.
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Here's some photos of the prototype brass Edge Block. As you can see its pretty similar to the stock block, so diving and pull-up range shouldn't be drastically affected. This one will also give you the ability to use up to 5 springs and still have a spring retainer bar attached.







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Hmm, if they ever make an Edge Pro version, I'd be interested. I don't like how fat the other's that are currently on the market are (I do quite a bit of diving and pulling-up).

EDIT: Oopsie, didn't notice this was an overseas convo. Still interested though if shipping is reasonable.
We'll see how this goes. I've got an Edge Pro block here, maybe we can get it looked at too.
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