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post #1 of 33 (permalink) Old 07-12-2003, 07:25 AM Thread Starter
 
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cutting an original neck to become an all access neck

guys i need some help in this.
i have an rg 770(about 12 years old)
and currently the neck is an original neck.
Is it possible to cut part of the neck?
or maybe like adding more space to gain more access
to the higher frets?
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post #2 of 33 (permalink) Old 07-12-2003, 08:27 AM
 
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Hi!
Nothing is impossible, just takes some research .
There where something at guitarproject site, about modeling for all access joint, but that seemed to be interrupted, some pics still there though.

Seem like you actually have to add some wood to the neckjoint and reshape it for AllAccess.

Donīt just remember under wich topic i found the right link
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see the last 2 pics on this page. it was a DY neck i had done. very simple mod... glen
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post #4 of 33 (permalink) Old 07-12-2003, 11:55 AM Thread Starter
 
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hmm iziit actually possible?
man this is confusing
one of my friends says that it cant be done as there might be electronics
near the neck joint.extra wood?
i thought it was just a matter of cutting and some sandpapering?
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post #5 of 33 (permalink) Old 07-12-2003, 12:07 PM
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Yes...add wood to the neck and reshape.

But what about the body? If you are using the same body...you will need to route the neck pocket more towards the pup route to accomodate the newly added material on the neck.
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Tiz a little peesy to do,i did it to my natural jem :-) ,and yes as Jeremy said you'll have to route the neck pocket,not easy but dooable for the DIY'er

Rob


Is Dooable a real word ? Simon?
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post #7 of 33 (permalink) Old 07-13-2003, 01:17 AM
 
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Do-able. I think.

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Thanx Mic,Being a londoner my spelling is ****e to say the least

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post #9 of 33 (permalink) Old 07-13-2003, 12:30 PM Thread Starter
 
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hey guys,just a quick question.
iziit actually better to do it yourself
or goto a nearby guitar shop and let them do it?
i live in malaysia and im not quite sure
whether the technicians there are any good.
are there any other ppl like say a carpenter :P
who can do the job?
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post #10 of 33 (permalink) Old 07-13-2003, 12:42 PM
 
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Maybe not your average carpenter, but a cabinet maker should be able to do it quite easily.
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hmm?
a cabinet maker?
that wont be easy man..

oh well i guess i will try
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post #12 of 33 (permalink) Old 07-13-2003, 03:32 PM
 
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dude,hunt down an english chippy,they will be able to do it,if not there a couple of people on this site that could do it a damn site cheaper than most "professional" woodworkers,No offence meant to the quality work found on those ad thingys above ;-)

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Um, unless I misread this completely, you're talking about reshaping the body to a more All-Access-like profile in the neck heel, right?

It's doable... You've gotta be careful with structural integrity, but one thing I've seen done is angling the treble-string side of the neck joint, so it's rounded on that corner but square everywhere else. That might work...

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It's simple, (sort of) you add extra wood to the neck, right up under the part where the fretboard is extended and sand away what is now "excess" wood, then you sape the body joint EXACTLY like the AANJ on production models . . .

SOUNDS easy, but I wouldn't do it. I have an RG 550 from 1990 with the original heel and while I like the AANJ better, the old heel doesn't really stop me from playing just the same.

Steve Vai's "FLO" was originally a Floral Pattern Jem that was modified in this way (I don't think they added wood to the original neck, as "she" has a Jem 555 neck on her now, those are already AANJ) and painted white.

All FP models have the original neck joint, so there's simple proof that it can be done, and it works, but I'm sure it's more work, and more delicate woodworking, than an average DYSer should take on.

Personally, I say live with it as is, but if you REALLY want to do this, either have a pro do it, or be prepared to have a nice looking piece of firewood if you screw it up.

If you're talking about just removing some of the wood from the heel that's there now, not going for the whole AANJ shape, again, you have to be VERY CAREFUL. It's easy to remove too much wood and there's a lot of stress at that point of the assembly.

I tried to make a strat joint angled like on an original RG and ended up taking too much wood off for that particular guitar. Luckily strat bodies are everywhere and I just picked up a new one, but when I tuned the old one up and heard KKKKRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAACCK!, well, you know how I felt.

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post #15 of 33 (permalink) Old 07-15-2003, 10:26 AM Thread Starter
 
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well actually,what i really wanted to cut isnt the neck.
Its the Neck joint i wanted to cut.i wouldnt mind the
neck that still has an original shape.
but i just need a bit more access as my hands are small
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