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post #1 of 12 (permalink) Old 04-26-2012, 10:29 PM Thread Starter
 
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Edge zero angle help

I've been registered on here for a while, but this is my first post. This forum is filled with Ibanez experts, so hopefully someone can help me out with this!

I'm having an issue with my edge zero's setup angle on my Prestige. From what I'm gathering from various sources, the edge zero should be parallel to the body.

My problem is when the trem is parallel to the body it doesn't touch the ZPS bar. I attached an image to show what the trem looks like when I push the whammy bar down until it touches the ZPS bar (without moving the bar). It doesn't look right to me when the trem is at the angle. The strings are off the guitar at the moment, but when I tried to reduce the tension on the springs to move the trem so it touched the ZPS bar, the action was way too high on the 12th fret and higher.

Any help would be appreciated!
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post #2 of 12 (permalink) Old 04-26-2012, 10:34 PM
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Re: Edge zero angle help

Looks flat to me.

With the ZPS in it must be in contact with the bar, first movement dive the bar moves, first movement pull-up the bar does not move. The bar controls trem angle as not all body routs are the same.

With the bar removed the angle is just set flat.
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Re: Edge zero angle help

Rich has worked on more of these than he can count, and he's right, go with the ZPS bar and don't be concerned with the angle you're seeing outside the cavity.

The only time you have to adjust this manually is with the bridges that don't have the ZPS, or if you remove the ZPS to make it float.

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Re: Edge zero angle help

Almost forgot...

With the bridge angle set correctly, if your action is too high, just lower it using the posts. they do go lower into the body.
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Re: Edge zero angle help

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I think I understand the mistake you're making dimedaner...

The bridge TOP is not supposed to be parallel, the knife edge is. The top of the bridge plate has an upward slope compared to the bottom and it just looks like it's angled up, even though it's flat.

Look at the knife edge insert, it's fine. Perpendicular to the post like it should be.

Rich has worked on more of these than he can count, and he's right, go with the ZPS bar and don't be concerned with the angle you're seeing outside the cavity.

The only time you have to adjust this manually is with the bridges that don't have the ZPS, or if you remove the ZPS to make it float. That being said, the top of this particular bridge is not supposed to be flat with the body, the knife edge is.
so the angle doesn't matter ? when im using the Zps ?

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Re: Edge zero angle help

Mic, EZ's are not angled. The baseplate is parrallel to the knife so it sets up flat when floating.

With the ZPS the ZPS controls the angle, that's just the way it is, no matter how much it's angled.
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Re: Edge zero angle help

Yes, it always matters, but the ZPS will set it to about the correct angle, and for the ZPS to work, it has to be touching the bar.

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Mic, EZ's are not angled. The baseplate is parrallel to the knife so it sets up flat when floating.

With the ZPS the ZPS controls the angle, that's just the way it is, no matter how much it's angled.
Okay, sorry, misinformation. Every one I've seen has looked a bit angled up so I assume that's just where the ZPS had the bridges.
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Re: Edge zero angle help

And I assumed it had a slope, not as steep as the OE... I sit corrected.
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Mic, EZ's are not angled. The baseplate is parrallel to the knife so it sets up flat when floating.

With the ZPS the ZPS controls the angle, that's just the way it is, no matter how much it's angled.
I'd think they would have incorporated an adjustment on the ZPS itself to adjust the angle when it's installed... I guess either it wasn't practical (perhaps too complicated), or just too expensive to implement.

Either those, or the engineers just didn't think of it.
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I'm sure they just expected perfect routs every time
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I'm sure they just expected perfect routs every time
Oh yeah... THAT happens... LOL
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