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post #1 of 9 (permalink) Old 02-13-2010, 11:18 AM Thread Starter
 
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Finally installed a ToneZone. Now its buzzing.

Hey guys, i finally got a tone zone installed into my RG4EXFM1. However, now there's a problem. There is some buzz that sounds like feedback. When i get to a foot away from the amp, it starts buzzing like crazy. If i back up, the buzzing still comes down to a hum, much like my stock single coil (INFS3). As i back up further, there is no effect after backing up from 1 foot away. This is a humbucker, so is it supposed to have such feedback? My friend told me this is because the pick up is very hot. I would also like to mention this is with drive turned up. On clean channels this isn't a problem, but neither is the single coil. I installed it myself, so is it possible i made a mistake soldering? Why does this usually happen? And if this is normal, are there any well know fixes for this? Thanks a lot guys, I really want my guitar to start sounding great asap! (By the way as i was writing this, it came to mind that i have place JEMs with evolutions installed, which are supposedly even hotter than the tone zones, and i dont remember this kind of buzz on the higher drive settings.)
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post #2 of 9 (permalink) Old 02-13-2010, 11:30 AM Thread Starter
 
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Re: Finally installed a ToneZone. Now its buzzing.

I also wanted to add that i had to change the wiring a little. Heres how it was set up before. My INF3 humbucker, had 3 wires: White, Black, Red. Red and White were connected to the 5 way selector at different spots (if it matters, white was on the first station from the left, red was third from the right, and the selector had 8 little stations). The black, which i assume is the ground, was connected to the volume pot as a giant blob along with a plethora of other wires. My new humbucker (Tone Zone DP155) had 4 different colored wires, along with an extra set of wires that were uncovered. The different colors included, black, white, green and red. I twisted the bare wires with the green wires, and connected that to the ground. I twisted the black and the white, and connected to where the white was originally. I took the red and connected where the red was originally.

That was some back up information that may help in solving this case. If you have any information, please let me know.

I WANT TO ADD THAT THIS IS A H-S-H GUITAR!!!!
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post #3 of 9 (permalink) Old 02-13-2010, 11:44 AM
 
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Re: Finally installed a ToneZone. Now its buzzing.

Assuming your ground connection is good, I think you need to swap your red wire with your black/white pair.
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post #4 of 9 (permalink) Old 02-13-2010, 11:45 AM Thread Starter
 
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Re: Finally installed a ToneZone. Now its buzzing.

Alright i did alittle more research, and it seems as though i may have an "out of phase guitar". This means i messed up the wiring scheme. I found this site, please take a look:(jem isnt letting me upload the link so instead of \ put a period (.) www\1728\com/guitar

It shows that i should have solder the white and black together, then my red is positive, my green is negative, and my bare wires are ground. Does this mean, that i should have green where my white was, my red where my white was, the bare wires to the ground and the white and black connected to each other, but not anything else. Can anyone help me find further diagrams or tell me what to do next? or share your experience? thanks alot.
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post #5 of 9 (permalink) Old 02-13-2010, 01:23 PM
 
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Re: Finally installed a ToneZone. Now its buzzing.

http://www/1728/com.guitar does not work. Nothing to do with jemsite.
Modern pups colours were changed around on dimarzio so there can be mix ups.
Still using the proper dimarzio 5way switch? Its not the same as other makes.
Did you earth the pickguard too for further anti-feedback?

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post #6 of 9 (permalink) Old 02-13-2010, 02:54 PM Thread Starter
 
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Re: Finally installed a ToneZone. Now its buzzing.

its not the ground. ive been suggested to switch the black+white wires with the red wire. is it possible to short circuit my guitar like this?
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post #7 of 9 (permalink) Old 02-13-2010, 03:14 PM
 
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Re: Finally installed a ToneZone. Now its buzzing.

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its not the ground. ive been suggested to switch the black+white wires with the red wire. is it possible to short circuit my guitar like this?
There's no power going to your guitar, you can't break anything. Trust me.
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post #8 of 9 (permalink) Old 02-16-2010, 11:28 AM
 
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Re: Finally installed a ToneZone. Now its buzzing.

you can't harm anything from shorting hot to ground in a passive guitar circuit, you'll just get no output!!! I just checked and my sansamp has a 1MegOhm input impedance, so there will be very very little current across the hot and ground lines of a guitar circuit, assuming other preamps have similar input impedance.

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post #9 of 9 (permalink) Old 02-20-2010, 09:57 PM
 
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Re: Finally installed a ToneZone. Now its buzzing.

I had this problem when I installed a bridge evolution in my '88 Saber. The problem was two of three pups were wired differently (red/Green/white) to the switches from previous pup changes. Check out all pups and rerwire all of them and make sure your ground is proper.
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