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post #1 of 14 (permalink) Old 01-21-2006, 09:31 PM Thread Starter
 
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Flo

Hey everyone this is about the Fernandes sustainer, but the reason that I'm posting a new entry rather than searching is because its regarding a specific combination in terms of my guitar.

I have a Jem 555 that I had customised to play like a Jem 7, which means the neck was shaped exactly like a Jem 7, and since I had a great Jem 555 piece any way, which I know isn't common, it plays awesome, and to be really honest it plays better than the 3-4 Jem 7's that i've tried. I'm serious.

Now my aunt got me a Fernandes sustainer for my birthday, and I can't sell it. I was wondering if its an ok idea to have it installed. I just love its tone and I love the features and even the sustainers tone when its a pickup. People say that it affects tone because you're taking away a lot of wood. I need to know how much. How much is it really affected? I think this tone could use a little tweaking any way which means altering the tone a little seems ok to me. Also if its Basswood, doesn't it mean there's more mass to the body, which means its affected less?

Thanks a lot.
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post #2 of 14 (permalink) Old 01-22-2006, 12:01 PM
 
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Re: Flo

I'll take it off your hands
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post #3 of 14 (permalink) Old 01-22-2006, 10:39 PM Thread Starter
 
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Re: Flo

Thanks for the offer, but even if you were serious I can't sell it, its not an option. I'd really appreciate some feedback and opinions because I'm leaving for university soon and I need time after its installed to try it out and check it and maybe go and get it fixed if anything isn't right.
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post #4 of 14 (permalink) Old 01-23-2006, 02:55 AM
 
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Re: Flo

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Originally Posted by amanvai
Hey everyone this is about the Fernandes sustainer, but the reason that I'm posting a new entry rather than searching is because its regarding a specific combination in terms of my guitar.

I have a Jem 555 that I had customised to play like a Jem 7, which means the neck was shaped exactly like a Jem 7, and since I had a great Jem 555 piece any way, which I know isn't common, it plays awesome, and to be really honest it plays better than the 3-4 Jem 7's that i've tried. I'm serious.

Now my aunt got me a Fernandes sustainer for my birthday, and I can't sell it. I was wondering if its an ok idea to have it installed. I just love its tone and I love the features and even the sustainers tone when its a pickup. People say that it affects tone because you're taking away a lot of wood. I need to know how much. How much is it really affected? I think this tone could use a little tweaking any way which means altering the tone a little seems ok to me. Also if its Basswood, doesn't it mean there's more mass to the body, which means its affected less?

Thanks a lot.
You will need to remove wood in order to get room for the battery. Try searching the forum a few people here have installed sustainers in their guitars and I don't think they have had problems with the tone afterwards.

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post #5 of 14 (permalink) Old 01-23-2006, 05:53 AM Thread Starter
 
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Re: Flo

Ok, thanks. I wouldn't be doing it myself anyway, Any possibilty that there are some diagrams out there? My tech doesn't do electronics that often but he said he can recommend the right person for the job, and a diagram to show them would be great. I basically want the exact set up Flo has.
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post #6 of 14 (permalink) Old 01-23-2006, 06:01 AM
 
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Re: Flo

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Ok, thanks. I wouldn't be doing it myself anyway, Any possibilty that there are some diagrams out there? My tech doesn't do electronics that often but he said he can recommend the right person for the job, and a diagram to show them would be great. I basically want the exact set up Flo has.
Isn't there a diagram included in the kit? Try the fernandes site.

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post #7 of 14 (permalink) Old 01-23-2006, 07:06 AM
 
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Re: Flo

The Fernandes is quite a large piece of electronics isn't it? The Sustainiac takes up less wood...

In anycase, I bet you got your guitar setup by Singapore's Luthier Malcom. I got my S520EX refretting by him. Excellent work.
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post #8 of 14 (permalink) Old 01-23-2006, 09:20 AM Thread Starter
 
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Re: Flo

Thats right man. I actually went to Kelvin without knowing anything, and he said that my guitar needed a refret and he did it. Ironically what worked out for me was that Kelvin didn't actually do a refret though he said he did, but I'm really thankful for that. I went to Malcolm and he gave me a guitar as great as Steve Vai's. Hey, aren't you the guy that was going to play with Andrew? I was playing with that band, but I'm leaving. Aphrodisiac is the name, I know because I came up with it. Well, it was a song I'd done and a friend thought it would be a cool name.

Anyway, I've already got the sustainer coming in any day now.

Thanks, and any more feedback is always appreciated.
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post #9 of 14 (permalink) Old 01-24-2006, 01:01 PM
 
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Re: Flo

Hey there amanvai, yeah, thats me... I couldn't join because of my gf.

In anycase, i heard the story from malcom, ugh, GC is something eh? They cut heads if you don't know your stuff. Tried to pull one on me before.

In anycase, hope your axe truely rocks.

OH YEAH!
Can I purchase the Evo neck from you? Since you will be putting the Sustainer in? Pls pm me if you are doing so!
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post #10 of 14 (permalink) Old 01-24-2006, 09:02 PM Thread Starter
 
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Re: Flo

Ok, and my guitar is real jem. Its beautiful, she would make Steve Vai proud.
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post #11 of 14 (permalink) Old 01-25-2006, 08:22 AM
 
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Re: Flo

now I got to learn something about these pups. As already stated you will need to remove wood. but the worst thing about is that when you install it you have to have a batterie near you. because when you run out of power there's no way you're gonna take a sound out of your guitar, not even from the other pups.
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post #12 of 14 (permalink) Old 01-25-2006, 08:59 AM Thread Starter
 
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Re: Flo

Ok, I knew about the batteries but I didn't know that there would be no sound. Wouldn't it jsut turn the sustainer off? Any way thats a smaller concern but the main thing is whether it'll really affect the guitar a lot, because i do know a lot of wood has to be removed. Doesn't it make a difference that its a basswood body I mean Steve Vai's is the same thing. I like Flo's tone.
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post #13 of 14 (permalink) Old 01-25-2006, 09:46 AM
 
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Re: Flo

Well I had read this info in Guitar world I guess. They had bought a tele to install feranandes sustainer on it and they said that when the batteries are dead then there's no sound. not even from the neck or the middle pup.
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post #14 of 14 (permalink) Old 01-26-2006, 09:21 PM Thread Starter
 
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Re: Flo

Ok, thanks for that. Any way, the only reason I wouldn't get it put in now is that its a quite a huge modification, and if its not safe then I wouldn't want to really do anything to the guitar.
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