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Floating trem standard tuning slightly off?

Hi I have an rg550 genesis it’s only a few weeks old. I havent changed the strings and I have stretched them before using the guitar. I’m using a stark tuner and tuning the guitar to standard. After a little use(even without the tremolo arm) the pitch is fluctuating on the tuner. I have even used a tuner on my phone and it’s does the same thing, even before playing. It’s just slightly flat alternating between that and fully standard but to my ear it sounds normal. Will the tuning ever be perfectly at standard? Or is there something I need to do? Or is the tuner off? Again it sounds ok to my ears but it might sound worse to others. It’s the original edge trem thanks!
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Re: Floating trem standard tuning slightly off?

Apart from keeping the trem knives level and checking that the trem lock studs are locked down, the other thing that used to get me in the early days was tuning and setting up with the guitar while it was laying flat, then discovering that the guitar would go slightly sharp when I picked it up. It turns out the super thin wizard necks would shift enough when laying down, enough to affect the tuning, so I always tune then lock whilst holding the guitar in a playing position.


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Re: Floating trem standard tuning slightly off?

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Hi I have an rg550 genesis itís only a few weeks old. I havent changed the strings and I have stretched them before using the guitar. Iím using a stark tuner and tuning the guitar to standard. After a little use(even without the tremolo arm) the pitch is fluctuating on the tuner. I have even used a tuner on my phone and itís does the same thing, even before playing. Itís just slightly flat alternating between that and fully standard but to my ear it sounds normal. Will the tuning ever be perfectly at standard? Or is there something I need to do? Or is the tuner off? Again it sounds ok to my ears but it might sound worse to others. Itís the original edge trem thanks!

You are never 100% in tune. If you hit a string hard it will go higher and then go lower again. So for some people it even might be interessting to tune it flat in certain situations. Higher stringe gauges are better in holding the tuning on different picking situations but it will still never be perfect.



Still like the other guy said - if the neck angle changes slightly, tuning will change slightly, same goes for the trem - everytime something on the guitar changes slightly, the tunning will change slightly.


I think the only way arround that woud be making a guitar out of a material wich is more stable and dosnnt move with heat and cold and so on - not using a floating tremolo, going with true temprament frets using very high string gauges - and even then it woudnnt be perfect. Sad life.
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How was the tuning before changing the strings?
Did you change the string gauge?

As far as I know, floating tremolos never let us to stay 100% in-tune. Slight bend and the tuning will change. I can be wrong, though.

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My own personal experience is headstock tuners are not as well suited as plug in ones. Those & phone apps are better suited to acoustic guitar. I tune guitars using a a Peterson model 100 tuner & have the following trems. Jackson Jt6, original edge (86 & 01) Edge zero 2 & OFR. I haven't had any issues with any of those, as long as they're set up properly, & the knife edges are in good shape.
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Hi I have an rg550 genesis it’s only a few weeks old. I havent changed the strings and I have stretched them before using the guitar. I’m using a stark tuner and tuning the guitar to standard. After a little use(even without the tremolo arm) the pitch is fluctuating on the tuner. I have even used a tuner on my phone and it’s does the same thing, even before playing. It’s just slightly flat alternating between that and fully standard but to my ear it sounds normal. Will the tuning ever be perfectly at standard? Or is there something I need to do? Or is the tuner off? Again it sounds ok to my ears but it might sound worse to others. It’s the original edge trem thanks!
Another thing that took me awhile to learn and figure out, was that you can be in tune prior to locking the nuts. Once you clamp them down, your strings will go out of tune. Also, make sure your intonation is correct by adjusting the saddles on the bridge. Last thing I can think of is the repetitiveness of tuning your guitar with the fine tuners. When you make one string get into pitch, the the others will either go flat or sharp until they "balance out."
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