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post #1 of 11 (permalink) Old 09-06-2020, 07:34 PM Thread Starter
 
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Help locating 10mm deep socket for Edge Trem

This one should be easy. One of my Edge trem sockets is loose. Been lucky to never have this issue before.

Appears I need a 10mm deep socket to tighten it up. However I知 having a heck of a time locating one with a thin enough barrel to actually get into the trem cavity. What I知 finding at Home Depot, etc are 10mm deep sockets that have somewhat thick metal casing, too thick to get inserted into the narrow path of the trem cavity.

Any links to online tools that work here?

Thank you!
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Re: Help locating 10mm deep socket for Edge Trem

https://www.ibanezrules.com/tech/setup/loose_holder.htm
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Re: Help locating 10mm deep socket for Edge Trem

Thanks Rich. Amazingly I致e never had a this problem on multiple guitars over the years until today.

I went down a rabbit hole with a YouTube video where a guy used a 10mm socket. I later learned that only worked because early models had bigger trem cavity routes, allowing it to fit in there.

I guess tomorrow I知 taking the trem off. The part I知 still learning from reading your description is that the holder itself evidently seems to screw in and out of the holder assembly?
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Re: Help locating 10mm deep socket for Edge Trem

Follow the link to pull the trem with strings on.

The holder is loose, not just the nut. Unless both are tight it will just keep getting loose again.
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Re: Help locating 10mm deep socket for Edge Trem

Rich thank you! Fixed it hopefully for a long time. Was a bit nerve wracking doing it on my 30th LNG versus an old 550, but it worked perfectly. Was amazed when the guitar was still in perfect tune after getting the bridge back on.

One last one. As I知 looking at an assortment of Edge trem bars, I just notice that some have the nylon bushing rings cut lower and some higher. Since my bar assortment dates back to 1988, wondering when they made the slight shift of the positioning of the two bushings? And which is the newer version, the one with the bushing closer to the bottom point or the one with more distance between the bottom point and first bushing.
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Re: Help locating 10mm deep socket for Edge Trem

87' should be the last year of the wide spread bushings. LNG's should all have those bars, although there are late 88 LNG's also.
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Re: Help locating 10mm deep socket for Edge Trem

I had to the same problem but I managed to get the socket on. Getting the socket off was a little harder. I too hope this is nothing that will have to be done regularly.

Another thing I had a hard time finding was a flat head screw driver wide enough to catch the notches on the top side of the trem bar hole.

If this happens again I am going to find some locktite and put on the threads to fix it once and for all.

I tried pulling the tremelo out but being a kind of awkward shaped thing the temelo edge itself is, I found it hard to hold steady with a tool in each hand. One would almost have to have some sort of vice in order to do it correctly.
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I had no idea the bars were different! That explains why I could never get my 540r to get a trem arm to fit properly. Or possibly something was wrong with the old 1987 trem arm holder... I wound up just putting a red bishop magic arm on.
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Re: Help locating 10mm deep socket for Edge Trem

The holder was the modern flush holder but the bars had the bushing spread for the older holder where the top was 3mm? over the plate. Those tubes are 2mm longer and the spread made the bar more stable, less wiggle.
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So are the older longer holders better than the flush mount style because they were more stable?

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Re: Help locating 10mm deep socket for Edge Trem

The bar was more stable because the spread of the bushings was wider. The wider spread and shorter holder make the bars more prone to breaking at the top bushing cut in a modern tube.
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