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post #1 of 27 (permalink) Old 09-08-2004, 02:25 PM Thread Starter
 
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I WANT A REGULAR FLOYD ROSE WHERE THE EDGE IS ON MY RG550!

Has anyone out there taken the Edge trem - and it's rather annoying trem arm system and replaced it with a good old fashioned Floyd Rose one ?

You see i dont like the Edge trem, and i'd really like to stick a nice shiny Gold Floyd Rose on my RG550 but i'm curious if they are the same size etc and will swap places comfortably.
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post #2 of 27 (permalink) Old 09-08-2004, 02:38 PM
 
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You can try asking LGM, EKG, or Rich Harris(all linked above), and see if they can help you, though.

What don't you like about the Edge?
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If its just the trem arm part that you don't like,you can put a floyd style insert into an edge trem.They are made by allparts.I converted quite a few edges and lo-pros.It eliminates the need for the nylon bushings.You get a floyd screw in type bar.
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post #4 of 27 (permalink) Old 09-09-2004, 04:41 AM
 
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the Floyd fits well into Edge's cavity, though it's slightly different.

the Edge isnt bad at all, most ppl here would say it's even better than the Floyd. also, the need for the nylon bushings can be eliminated by using a little piece of cook plastic film (or whatever you call it). it's cheap, it's easy, no need to buy anything, no need to dismantle anything and most of all, it works great.
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It won't work. The routing is all wrong.
Yes it will and the routing is not wrong, just bigger than OFR needs so it might look a bit funny but will fit without ANY problems.

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I don't think the fit is a given. It may work much or most of the time, but I'm sure I've tried this retrofit and there was some slight rubbing against the body on my radius.
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I don't think the fit is a given. It may work much or most of the time, but I'm sure I've tried this retrofit and there was some slight rubbing against the body on my radius.
It's a straight swap EVERY time. There's a chance that you had one of the really old OFR that had the long trem block and that might have been hiting the trem cavity plate but nothing else touches anything.

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post #8 of 27 (permalink) Old 09-09-2004, 01:52 PM Thread Starter
 
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Edge flaws

I don't like the trem arm system, and have attempted to retro fit with an allparts one but i cant seem to get the 'widget' out of the trem so i can install the other 'widget' that'd allow me a screw on bar.
Also it's much easier to replace Floyd parts than it is ibanez ones here in the UK.

It's also a cosmetic thing, i've an RG550 and it's all black, and rather dull
So i've got me some gold screws and a couple of yellow knobs, upgraded to dimarzo evolutions that i'm investigating ways of brightening up and rather feel some gold hardware would get the instrument reflecting me rather than the 'rock guitar' buyer that Ibanez marketing department probably had in mind for it's target customer.
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Why don't you just get a gold lo pro and convert the arm?
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I don't think the fit is a given. It may work much or most of the time, but I'm sure I've tried this retrofit and there was some slight rubbing against the body on my radius.
It's a straight swap EVERY time. There's a chance that you had one of the really old OFR that had the long trem block and that might have been hiting the trem cavity plate but nothing else touches anything.

ilia
No, it was the top rout that I was thinking of, but I think I found the source of my confusion...

I have a black Jackson Schaller JT590 trem. It is, in Jackson circles, considered a direct fit for an OFR. But it is NOT a drop-in for the Edge on my Radius! I tried the 2 chrome OFRs I have and they both ARE. This is a bummer because I would prefer the Jackson (I like the stiff-arm thing and hate those durn nylon bushings).
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These nylon bushings are only a problem if you take the arm out a lot.
Left alone (well, you can use it as long as you don't take it out every day) it should be tight for at least 2 months and a pack of 12 bushings is £5.
Anyway, the widget you are talking about is screw in - the trem plate has thread in it and the widget screws in from the top.
You should unscrew the nut underneath and then the philips machine screw that is holding the little springhy thing, after that use a normal scredriver to unscrew the trem arm holder from the top.

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I've seen OFR's that will rub on the trem arm side of the edge route previously. I've also had most of them require the back side of the trem route be lengthened slightly as the "wings" on the OFR will sometimes rub. However, this comes down to the trem stud locations, sometimes they are drilled back a little far for some reason.
The OFR will look like it's off center in an edge route though due to the base side of the OFR being narrower than the treble side.
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These nylon bushings are only a problem if you take the arm out a lot.
Left alone (well, you can use it as long as you don't take it out every day) it should be tight for at least 2 months and a pack of 12 bushings is £5.
Anyway, the widget you are talking about is screw in - the trem plate has thread in it and the widget screws in from the top.
You should unscrew the nut underneath and then the philips machine screw that is holding the little springhy thing, after that use a normal scredriver to unscrew the trem arm holder from the top.
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We have diferent definitions of "tight". I have put an old floyd arm assembly on my edge before, but it's not a great match since the edge baseplate is angled and thicker than the straight OFR or schaller. The edge will do for now, but I'll get a hankerin' to dork around with it again one day...
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Heh, I put the Schaller arm assembly(thumb-screw style) on my Edge trems. They stay tight for a good while(one is going on 2 years).

Now, TRS trems came with these bars, but not near as tight tolerances on the manufacturing.

Just an idea.
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The other problem is the studs & bushings. The OFR bushings are smaller so you'd have to dowel then redrill. I'm 99% sure the IBZ studs won't allow the OFR to work properly. You can stick the OFR on there with the IBZ studs, but I don't think you get the full range of dive/pull-up you get with OFR studs.
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