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post #1 of 28 (permalink) Old 09-25-2011, 02:31 PM Thread Starter
 
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Ibanez Edge Zero - Cheap Metal - reminder

Hi guys!
A month ago I had problems with my brand new Ibanez RG2550Z 2009 build,
The nut started to deform.
I posted some Threads here and at ibanez forums and then I was asked to remove all the info from my Bulgarian distributor. Ibanez them self asked that.
They sent me 4 locking pads and for them the problem where solved.

Then I bought an old locking nut from 2005 and this nut is solid as rock. No a single sign of deformation or wearing.

Now one of the threading on the base plate of the EDGE Zero tremolo, where is the locking saddle screw
of the 3th string is screwed down, broke down and come down when I unscrewed the screw to make a little fix to intonation.
http://nalbantov.com/Tremolo/IMG_0510.JPG
there are 2 holes where to screw and lock the saddle now the upper one is gone.

If I had the chance I would go and return this "cheap" instrument but I don't
Here in Bulgaria you can't return a purchase and there is no such policy
My teacher's salary is around the total price of the all hardware on that Ibanez guitar..

I'm not here to complain.
I'm here just to express my indignation.

I bought it and now I have to live with it.
Sadly I sold my old 1991 Ibanez with the hope for better. New guitar with Prestige word on it.
Now I'm not sure how long the whole tremolo will withstand through the time.
I even can't sell this guitar. Who will buy it...


And lastly, your new 2010-1 prestige or j custom ibanez maybe is made from better improved materials, who knows. Mine is not!
The Bulgarian distributor had only 2 / TWO/ 2550z in storage. One black and one white. I took the white made in 2009.

Best Regards,
Dimi

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Re: Ibanez Edge Zero - Cheap Metal - reminder

The threads are in a steel plate screwed to the bottom side of the trem. Very doubtful you stripped those threads, much more likely you stripped the threads on the screw [which would be very common]. Replace the screw, or replace the saddle holder plate, but I seriously doubt that is the problem.
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My bad, I have one in my hands right now and it is not replaceable. I looks like it may be welded on and ground flush, but even under a loupe I can't be sure.

I'd still think you stripped the screw and not the base threads. Did you pull it out and look?
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Re: Ibanez Edge Zero - Cheap Metal - reminder

it sounded like he snapped the head off to me...is there a way to remove the screw from the bottom if the head is snapped?? I don't own an EZ to see for myself.

Dimi, can you provide a pic of the saddle in it's current state??
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have you tried contacting Ibanez again?
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Re: Ibanez Edge Zero - Cheap Metal - reminder

Hi guys! It is not the threads on the screw,
The threads from the baseplate hole fall down like a spiral from the screw.
The screw looks like new and it is screwed down, now to the lower hole of the plate to.

I just want to warn you and to keep and eye on your guitars with EdgeZ tremolos.
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can you put up more pics? I absolutely believe you, but I cant understand how the baseplate could strip because of the softer screw.
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can you put up more pics? I absolutely believe you, but I cant understand how the baseplate could strip because of the softer screw.
Exactly, the screw is way softer, and still looks brand new? You'd strip the head of the screw before the baseplate anyway IMO.
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Yes I will post picks.
Anyway, just want to share my experience with the new hardware.
I will look for a a turnery workshop to drill bigger thread and then I will screw some new bigger screw, then maybe I will search on ebay for a replacement tremolo.

Also I'm nut sure how many modification need to be made on the tremolo routing on the body to put an old original EDGE because they are cheap now in ebay.
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Exactly, the screw is way softer, and still looks brand new? You'd strip the head of the screw before the baseplate anyway IMO.
That's what I'm thinking too....... there MUST be something else going on here.
Even on the worst of trems (EP2) the baseplate is WAY harder than the saddle screws........even if it was cross-threaded the base should be fine.

Really need to see some pics!!
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Yes I will post picks.
Anyway, just want to share my experience with the new hardware.
I will look for a a turnery workshop to drill bigger thread and then I will screw some new bigger screw, then maybe I will search on ebay for a replacement tremolo.

Also I'm nut sure how many modification need to be made on the tremolo routing on the body to put an old original EDGE because they are cheap now in ebay.
Thanks Dimi...the pics should help a lot!!
Can I ask that you wait to do any repairs til we get a look at it......... maybe we can help, If not we'll at least know about a possible problem/flaw for the future.
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........Also I'm nut sure how many modification need to be made on the tremolo routing on the body to put an old original EDGE because they are cheap now in ebay.
I'll get back to you on the routing question
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There are 20-30,000 of these trems out there, and I have plenty of my own reasons why I'm not in love with them, but, you're the only one that's ever claimed to strip the threads in the base. And if any other members here had [which is over 20,000], I'm pretty sure they would have said something about it. I'm not saying you don't have a problem, but you are 1 of 1.
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RGTFanatic, long ago my 1st Ibanez guitar was RBM10 made in korea. Reb Beach model. TRS tremolo.

After a year, the thread, where the tremolo bar is screwed down, fall out from the hole. It was 15 years ago.
One guy from a local shop told me it was made from zinc allow back then and thats why it is falling apart

Then 10 years ago I bought and old RG450 model with original EDGE,
Never had a single problem with the nut or the trem.

Now I'm with the same problems again

I don't want to argue and I'm not here trying to harm anyone.
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RGTFanatic, long ago my 1st Ibanez guitar was RBM10 made in korea.
after a year the thread where the tremolo bar is screwed down, fall out from the hole. It was 15 years ago.
One guy from a local shop told me it was made from zinc allow back then and thats why it is falling apart

Then 10 years ago I bought and old RG450 model with original EDGE,
Never had a single problem with the nut or the trem.

Now I'm with the same problems again

I don't want to argue and I'm not here trying to harm anyone.
No argument here...were all friends.

I've had those TRS trem arm's break too. I've had to replace a few of them in the past.

I'm just really hoping to help you out here even if you sell it in the end, at least it will be a complete guitar.
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