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post #1 of 30 (permalink) Old 06-20-2011, 04:53 PM Thread Starter
 
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Ibanez Finishing HELP!

Hi.

I have a superstrat body and I'm planning on stripping it and finishing it.
I was having a look at some finishes and there was one i liked.
There is like a natural colour around the contours of the body, im almost sure I seen it on some pictures of the S series although im not sure.
Any ideas on how to achieve the finish on the contours?

Thanks in advance
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try to find pictures please.
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Re: Ibanez Finishing HELP!

Do you mean the taped-off natural "binding like this?
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If so, just tape off the area around the body edge before spraying--this creates the natural "binding" look around the edges.



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Re: Ibanez Finishing HELP!

Yeah thats exactly what im looking for, didnt know it was called 'binding'
Have you any advice on technique or what kind of tape to do the binding?

Thanks for all the help man!
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Re: Ibanez Finishing HELP!

If I'm correct you do *NOT* stain in order to get a nice clean transparent color. I think it's just a tinted clear coat. I think you also start with a plain clear coat to build the edge so you can trim it back to clear nicely with a razor. Also if you apply your color correctly most of the finish will be plain clear. Correct me if I'm wrong but this finish would be hard to do in Nitro (bleed through clears). I wouldn't tape the binding, hence the razor comment. check it out

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Re: Ibanez Finishing HELP!

Hey Justme
Thanks for the video link those are always helpful.
I think the scraping is definitely something im going to have to do to make it look more noticeable from the front view.
What i can gather from that video (baring in mind its past 2 in the morning and im real tired) is that the edges are still taped off and the tape is pulled back after painting.
Im not planning to do a stained finish. Im aiming for a pure black, maybe metallic finish with the natural binding.
Please correct me if im wrong here guys. This is what I have in my head to do.
Prep the body.
Tape off the contours.
Spray the body.
Peel back the tape and then scrape the top edges
Is this ok?
The binding is just the natural wood of the guitar right? Or is it prepped differently?
Sorry if i sound nooby. This guitar finishing thing is a new thing to me and guitar talk isn't my forte (Im a drummer haha)
Im gonna do some reading up on binding finishes here, ill post what i find.
Thanks for all the help so far guys!
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Ok. So I done a really quick bit of research there on binding. It seems the 'most popular' or 'more professional' way to do it is to re-rout edges into the guitar to lay plastic binding on and glue down.
Since i don't have a router and my hand is as steady as someone having a fit, I think that option is out the window for me.
I guess whats popped into my head is; Natural guitar wood binding, or an undercoat colour binding?

Thanks
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****I don't know if this is absolute, just the way I would approach it***
Prep the body.
Clear the body (this keeps you from sanding through the sealer when your prepping the tinted coat for the final clear).
Tape off the contours.
Spray the tinted clear on body.
Peel back the tape and then scrape the top edges (this is challenging I still have nightmares from doing my KC100 Washburn).
Spray final top clear coat.

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Ok. So I done a really quick bit of research there on binding. It seems the 'most popular' or 'more professional' way to do it is to re-rout edges into the guitar to lay plastic binding on and glue down.
Since i don't have a router and my hand is as steady as someone having a fit, I think that option is out the window for me.
I guess whats popped into my head is; Natural guitar wood binding, or an undercoat colour binding?

Thanks
I would stick to your initial plan, I like the natural binding. Plastic is boring.
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PS... Sand sparingly on the edges..... paint is always thinner on the edges.
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Re: Ibanez Finishing HELP!

Hey man,

Why do you say to spray it with 'tinted clear coat'?
I've never heard of it before Will it give me the black finish i want or what does it do?

Thanks alot man
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Ok. So I done a really quick bit of research there on binding. It seems the 'most popular' or 'more professional' way to do it is to re-rout edges into the guitar to lay plastic binding on and glue down.
Since i don't have a router and my hand is as steady as someone having a fit, I think that option is out the window for me.
I guess whats popped into my head is; Natural guitar wood binding, or an undercoat colour binding?

Thanks
Yeah thats for plastic binding or different wood. You can paint binding on or tape it off and do it like that... not a huge deal
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Hey man,

Why do you say to spray it with 'tinted clear coat'?
I've never heard of it before Will it give me the black finish i want or what does it do?

Thanks alot man
I thought we were talking transparencies. Even with a solid color you want to clear at least the bound area first so your not scraping off the sealer.
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Re: Ibanez Finishing HELP!

Many sleepless nights on this one. My first ever paint job though D:

this is pre-final sand polish,


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I thought we were talking transparencies. Even with a solid color you want to clear at least the bound area first so your not scraping off the sealer.

what are you talking about????

1) seal wood if it needs it
2) tape "binding"
3) paint guitar
4) remove tape and expose binding
5) clean up edges
6) clear coat

why/how would you sand through the sealer??? stain is also transparent O.o you're confusing the bejesus out of me lol
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