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post #1 of 14 (permalink) Old 04-12-2004, 01:49 PM Thread Starter
 
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neck creaks

This is something I've been in correspondence with Rich about, but I thought I'd mention it here in case anyone else was unfamiliar. my 7VWH makes a very faint wood-on-wood creaking sound the first time I do a pull-up after I haven't picked up my guitar for a while. it doesn't do that on subsequent pull-ups, just if it's been sittin' still for several hours.

Apparently, this is very common for floating bridged guitars and is nothing to worry about. Rich said that it's just the neck 'realeasing some stored energy,' and as long as it doesnt' do that on every pull-up, the neck pocket is not too tight.

One thing I forgot to ask (and Rich, maybe you can answer this if you get some time), is whether or not it's important to release the stored energy with a pull-up each time I play. Seems like that's a good way to go through strings in a hurry, but if it's something that needs to be done...

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I don't think a guitar has yet to burst into flames from "stored energy" so you can rest easy ... glen
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true that, but I was thinking more about long term damage to the neck or the body of the guitar.

I wonder if spontaneous combustion is covered by warranty :-)
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Sometimes you can hear that creak through the pickups [sometimes not], so if you're recording it would be a good idead to get the first creak out of the way before you hit record
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Sometimes I need to release some stored energy... wait, wrong forum!
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so, other than for recording purposes, releasing the pressure in the neck pocket isn't something that needs to be done every time, is that right? I guess I'm just asking if pressure in there over time could adversely affect the neck or the body way down the road.

Maybe that's just a rediculous notion, but just wanted to make sure. I want everything on this guitar to stay exactly like it is!

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You're what I'd affectionately call a worry wart
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Yeah, I guess I'll admit to that.

I'll stop worrying about it. Thanks for your advice/expertise!
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I don't know if this is the same creak we're talking about, but on my RG350, and another RG350 I played around with at a store locally made, a kind of popping/crack/creak...after I first got my RG350 it started making that noise after a week...but i went through all the possibilities and found it was the locking nut making that sound...so just tightening the two screws on the back of the neck completely got rid of that noise...and that could possibly be the problem...i'd try it out. Hopefully I'm not talking out of my ass about something that doesn't apply to what you're talking about.
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Hi guys!
My '03 7vwh does exactly the same thing.
All I do is hit the whammy bar & once I hear the "creek" it doesn't happen again until after the guitar sits for a while....and I mean like overnight.
Rich actually suggested that I do that anyway.
He told me that when tuning, to always push the bar down to loosen the strings & then fine tune.
I was used to my old strats where I always had to pull up on the bar to get the strings un-stuck from the nut or string tree.
Incedently Rich,....
since you set up my guitar, it's been great!
Thanks again dude!

Still though, using 10's I would have to install WAY too many springs on it to be able to stay in tune when bending. And I like to be able to use the whammy bar up as well as down.
Having said that, I NEED A BACKSTOP!

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He told me that when tuning, to always push the bar down to loosen the strings & then fine tune.
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That's actually to make sure the trem is set in low neutral, but the reason doesn't matter as long as it's done before you fine tune
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yep.
well it seems then that I got a 2 for 1 deal!

Speaking of flutter, I actually find that my bridge flutters a little too much.
I'd tighten (or add) the springs but then I would loose:
A: the pull-up range
B: the loosness of the whammy bar for vibrato & dives.
hmmm. a conundrum (spelling?)
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You still need to keep the trem at the proper angle, you'd loose no pullup range

Play with a loose bar, the easiest way to kill flutter
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true. but then when I go to grab the bar, it' somewhere way the hell over there!
I've weighed the pros & cons...
Once I have a backstop installed on THIS guitar, it'll be a dream come true. I just feel like it's neccessary.
Mine is the only Jem I've ever played so if there are other guitars out there that respond better...god bless you who have them!
...mine is still the sweetest guitar I've ever owned
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