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post #1 of 34 (permalink) Old 06-14-2013, 12:22 PM Thread Starter
 
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New body for dud Jem

Hello everyone,

I have a Jem 77vbk which i've owned from new which has zero sustain,harmonics or tone. I have been down every avenue of investigation with it and my tech has told me to try a new body for it.

Im really wanting to know,assuming my original basswood body is the culprit, can i achieve the same kinda tone and sustain of a real jem body if i where to try a custom body?

Also does anybody have any opinions on Area 51 customs based here in the uk?

Sorry if i sound a bit short, i always prefer to talk to folks in person.

Any help would be truly appreciated,

Kind Regards

Allan
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post #2 of 34 (permalink) Old 06-14-2013, 12:30 PM
 
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Re: New body for dud Jem

I think the body is just fine.
I'm guessing the setup is the real problem.
Not a lot of techs know hoe to setup an Ibanez JEM correctly.
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post #3 of 34 (permalink) Old 06-14-2013, 04:23 PM Thread Starter
 
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Re: New body for dud Jem

Thanks Sebastian, But the stage were at with it now is way beyond any possible setup issues, as i've said there is no sustain,even with a very high action,and the pups lowered right down.

There is a frequency warble on almost every note across the fretboard,including open strings, including when the guitar is played unplugged. These overtones i am sure are responsible for the poor resonance.

We have tested with all action heights and pickup heights,and checked neck join with no improvement whatsoever.

If i try a different body i will know one way or the other immediately.

Cheers Allan
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post #4 of 34 (permalink) Old 06-14-2013, 04:27 PM
 
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Re: New body for dud Jem

Can you post some pics of the bridge and the guitar over all as well?
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post #5 of 34 (permalink) Old 06-14-2013, 04:44 PM
 
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Re: New body for dud Jem

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assuming my original basswood body is the culprit,
Whilst theoretically possible, this is really unlikely. I'd try a new tech before I'd try a new body for the guitar.
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post #6 of 34 (permalink) Old 06-14-2013, 04:53 PM
 
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Re: New body for dud Jem

Warble...

Is the guitar used or has it been left in the case? Are the trem springs super new? Are they "sponged" (muted)? Potentially block the trem and see if the warble disappears?

Suggest you really abuse the trem springs a bit
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post #7 of 34 (permalink) Old 06-14-2013, 04:57 PM
 
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Re: New body for dud Jem

Yeah, I've had this happen on a guitar and it turned out the trem springs were resonating each note. But if your dead set on the new body, I'll be happy to take the old one off your hands
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post #8 of 34 (permalink) Old 06-15-2013, 10:16 AM
 
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Re: New body for dud Jem

.... and....

he's gone
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post #9 of 34 (permalink) Old 06-16-2013, 08:08 AM Thread Starter
 
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Talking Re: New body for dud Jem

I'm not gone,just busy.

Thanks for the replies, i have played the guitar a hell of a lot to get things worn in, and i've tried a different set of used springs, aswell as blocking the trem.

Cheers,

I'll put up some pics in a bit.
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post #10 of 34 (permalink) Old 06-16-2013, 10:52 AM
 
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Re: New body for dud Jem

Area 51 Customs does absolutely immaculate work. They have been recommended by Michael at LiveWire guitars as well. I've had many email exchanges with Zack there--super nice guy and unlike other replacement body vendors, he'll do just about anything with any neck pocket size.

I'll be using them for a future project for sure, even though I'll have to pay overseas shipping.

But that said, I think the best Jem body is a REAL Jem body, so if you really must replace it... I'd watch the 'Bay, or otherwise try to find a genuine one.

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post #11 of 34 (permalink) Old 06-16-2013, 12:49 PM
 
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Re: New body for dud Jem

My jem has similar harmonic wobbles, but only really with gain. Seems to be the non fretted strings resonating. When i make a special effort to mute unfretted strings it goes away.

It's an 88 FP set up with 9s. I tried dropping the pickups right down but it didn't make any difference.

Anyone have any ideas. Pups seem a bit microphonic, could re potting them help?
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Re: New body for dud Jem

Pardon my ignorance, but what does microphonic mean in regards to pups?
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post #13 of 34 (permalink) Old 06-16-2013, 02:42 PM
 
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Re: New body for dud Jem

It means they pick up noises from sources other than the strings, like taps on the scratchplate, mobile phones and so forth. I think it happens when the wax that the coils are dipped in dries out.
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post #14 of 34 (permalink) Old 06-16-2013, 03:01 PM
 
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Re: New body for dud Jem

What does it sound like unplugged and have you tried different pickups ?
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Re: New body for dud Jem

I can vouch for Zak's work btw.
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