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post #1 of 10 (permalink) Old 11-24-2003, 02:06 PM Thread Starter
 
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New UV7BK owner Trem wont pull up?

Just got a UV but the trem wont pull up (only slight change in pitch) feels like its is blocked, if you flick the bar you dont get the twang effect, as if its not floating.....?? any ideas people
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post #2 of 10 (permalink) Old 11-24-2003, 02:44 PM
 
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I know this is going to sound obvious, but have you taken the spring cavity cover off to see if there's anything blocking the bridge's motion?
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post #3 of 10 (permalink) Old 11-24-2003, 02:47 PM
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Did you take the trem cavity cover off the back and see if it actually is blocked? When you look across the body of the guitar from the side, does the bridge lay in parallel with the body, or does it dip down into the recess (http://www.jemsite.com/tech/t_1setup.htm#step1 )? If you haven't taken the back cover off to check, do that first and check for a physical block. Then, go to the tech section listed above and give it a quick setup yourself.

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Doesn't seem to be anything blocking the trem , on further testing the trem will pull up open g to c but is very resistant, not like jems i have owned, i cant imagine the extra string makes it that tight? Pushing down seems fine bringing back to pitch seems to, not clunck into neutral position but hit the resistance at a specific point as if it was restricted by wood, but then will pull up with difficulty, have to point bar to rear and push down to get leverage. Weird!! The knife edge (slot thing in side) talked about in the articles, seems to be parellel with the body but quite below the surface???. The back of the low pro, the underside flat bit where the adjusters go through is just if not the same height as the surface. Thanks for your help guys.
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Sounds like the trem is screwd down way too deep. Adjust trem height and angle. If the trem angles a bit forward, you have more motion while the height can be deep enough to provide good action. Experiment a bit.
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Maybe you need a neck shim. The procedure is well explained in the tech section of Ibanez Rules (banner above)

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Doesn't seem to be anything blocking the trem , on further testing the trem will pull up open g to c but is very resistant, not like jems i have owned, i cant imagine the extra string makes it that tight? Pushing down seems fine bringing back to pitch seems to, not clunck into neutral position but hit the resistance at a specific point as if it was restricted by wood, but then will pull up with difficulty, have to point bar to rear and push down to get leverage. Weird!! The knife edge (slot thing in side) talked about in the articles, seems to be parellel with the body but quite below the surface???. The back of the low pro, the underside flat bit where the adjusters go through is just if not the same height as the surface. Thanks for your help guys.
Sounds to me like the trem is not seated on the post. Take the trem off while leaving the strings attached and reseat it on the studs so you know its on there right. That would explain the extra crap your having to deal with
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I think i'm getting somewhere! I took the trem off and notice there were two small circular rub marks in the paint caused from the two stumps either side of the three screws underside front of trem rubbing. Changed the trem height and hey presto floating trem twangy flick effect!!!

Now my action is as high as Everest Guess i need the neck shim mod, how thick? Can i measure the difference between action before and after trem adjustment and apply difference to thickness of shim?

How much should an open G pull up, two tones/4 frets ?????

Thanks for your help!
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Buisness card thickness should do. If you need more after one then add another.
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I think i'm getting somewhere! I took the trem off and notice there were two small circular rub marks in the paint caused from the two stumps either side of the three screws underside front of trem rubbing. Changed the trem height and hey presto floating trem twangy flick effect!!!

Now my action is as high as Everest Guess i need the neck shim mod, how thick? Can i measure the difference between action before and after trem adjustment and apply difference to thickness of shim?

How much should an open G pull up, two tones/4 frets ?????

Thanks for your help!
When properly setup the trem should be able to be pulled back till it stops on the cavity of your guitar, *IE the back end should actually bottom out
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