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post #1 of 9 (permalink) Old 10-18-2011, 01:01 AM Thread Starter
 
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Recommendations for someone to do a restore (paint Job)

Hello Guys:

Do you remember my PGM100? I had a thread months ago here asking for advice on how to save the finish (it was damaged by humidity) and you were very kind and gave me tons of tips. That's how I got interested in the forum, learned a lot and made some new friends here.

The thing is I gave up on that guitar. I could not save the finish without re-doing it. So I took it to a local luthier and after 9 months with my guitar and evading my phone calls; I finally got it back.

I'm very displeased (to say the least) with the job done. He matched the jewel blue it previously had perfectly but the F-holes were very poorly painted, the details on the curves and edges are really messy and even the F-holes not aligned properly. I paid the guy $400 for a crappy job. I will not sue him because I will move out of state next week and the legal fees will be way more than what I lost in the business.

This guitar is an Original PGM from 1991, it is even autographed by Paul Gilbert in one of the back cavity covers. I would like to restore it to its former glory. Do you know anyone in the Virginia area who can do this job right (perfect)? Or someone not necessarily in that area who can re-do this job perfectly? Someone you can vouch for?

Your help will be very appreciated as always.

Here is a picture of the crappy job I paid for:

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post #2 of 9 (permalink) Old 10-18-2011, 09:27 AM
 
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Re: Recommendations for someone to do a restore (paint Job)

how bad was the finish before? any pics?
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post #3 of 9 (permalink) Old 10-18-2011, 09:44 AM
 
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I paid the guy $400 for a crappy job. I will not sue him because I will move out of state next week and the legal fees will be way more than what I lost in the business.
$400 is not a lot for a quality paint job. You paid for cheap work and got it. Not really sure what else I can really tell you?

Did the painter you use even specialize in doing graphics work? I would have definitely used someone who does custom airbrushing or motorcycle helmets.
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I was not awful. Actually it did not have a single scratch or dent on its original finish. But the thing is that it was not blue and pink anymore. It was like green and orange., and had some humidity stains I could not remove no matter which product I used. It made me sad back then, but it gets me worse now.

Some may say I am an ungrateful bastard, but I'll just say I'm picky has hell and sickly perfectionist. If he had called to let me know that he did not had the skills to do the F-holes I would have got him tons of Decals. They are on Ebay and I have 2 or 3 websites on my favorites that has them for sale. Instead he tried to paint them by hand and evaded me for 8 months. That is not cool at all.

Before:







Now:


Notice in the middle pick up how the F-holes are not perfectly aligned.







The F-holes are not even identical to each other.
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More close pics.



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post #6 of 9 (permalink) Old 10-18-2011, 10:25 AM Thread Starter
 
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$400 is not a lot for a quality paint job. You paid for cheap work and got it. Not really sure what else I can really tell you?

Did the painter you use even specialize in doing graphics work? I would have definitely used someone who does custom airbrushing or motorcycle helmets.
He is guitar builder. When I took the instrument to him he bragged a lot about how excellent he is and that he had the tools to do anything on his shop. I even asked him 3 times if he was sure he could do the job right before accepting to leave my instrument there. If he was humble and honest about it and did not spend 9 months to complete the job, I may not be so angry.
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post #7 of 9 (permalink) Old 10-18-2011, 10:28 AM
 
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I'm doing a PGM clone right now that is black with red that looks alot like that 1st pic! haha I will post soon. I bought decals for it and they worked great, so now I'm almost done clearing the body. its not a pro job, I'm no pro, but its close!


I think that I would have left it even with the imperfections if its a custom graphic, I say don't mess with it.
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I'm doing a PGM clone right now that is black with red that looks alot like that 1st pic! haha I will post soon. I bought decals for it and they worked great, so now I'm almost done clearing the body. its not a pro job, I'm no pro, but its close!


I think that I would have left it even with the imperfections if its a custom graphic, I say don't mess with it.
I already left someone mess with it and paid $400. I could have messed with it myself and saved the money. I just want it to look the way it was back when I bought it. Was that too much to ask?
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I already left someone mess with it and paid $400. I could have messed with it myself and saved the money. I just want it to look the way it was back when I bought it. Was that too much to ask?
you got screwed and that sucks.. You may have been better off using decals and having a go at it yourself, but hindsight is always 20/20. I feel for you because I have a PGM myself.
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