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post #1 of 26 (permalink) Old 10-15-2011, 10:55 AM Thread Starter
 
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Recommended action for guitar strings (10-52)

so in mm how much distance should it be at the treble and bass side measured at the distance between the top of the 24th fret and the bottom of the string
I want it as low as possible with tolerable buzz

I play a rg350ex with an OFR with ernie ball skinny top heavy bottom (10-52)
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post #2 of 26 (permalink) Old 10-15-2011, 11:05 AM
 
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Re: Recommended action for guitar strings (10-52)

Action is a personal preference, and every guitar will have different specs. Take it to a good luthier and have them do a setup for your playing style, then maintain it from there yourself.
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string height is only a small part of a setup.........If I were to tell you 1.5mm on the 52, and you couldn't get your guitar down to that, you might think there is something wrong with your guitar..but in reality, it can reach that with proper neck relief, neck angle, and nut height adjustments................

You might want to spend a couple of hours on Rich's setup page learning the details of a really great setup. You and your guitar will benefit immensely.

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Action is a personal preference

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my personal preference is low as possible so that i can play near effortlessly and i can tolerate a bit of buzz
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my personal preference is low as possible so that i can play near effortlessly and i can tolerate a bit of buzz
My personal preference is rather high, still I can play effortlessly and there is no buzz. Which just further proves the point mentioned earlier in this thread.
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Re: Recommended action for guitar strings (10-52)

A good starting point is about 1.5 mm on the treble side, and 2.0 mm on the bass side...
HOWEVER
As stated by RGTFanatic: neck relief, nut height (neck angle is usually only used to correct a too high, or too low bridge at your preferred action, not to actually set action.) will effect how low you can go... also, fret wear and/or leveling will effect how low you can go without buzz.
My preference is this: Whatever feels good for the particular guitar without/ or at least tolerable, buzz. Some guitars will have a great feel even with what some would consider crazy high action (I set up a Strat with a 12" radius at just over 3.5 mm both the high and low sides and it felt like butter, most would consider that high action) so it also depends on the guitar.

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I like the treble side at 1.5m (at least)

Actually, maybe this helps (I dont want to steal your thread).

I've got .9's in my RG1570 and with factory set up I couldnt get the bass side lower than 2.5mm.. treble is good at 1.5/1.4mm.. Neck is dead straight so I'm guessing there's a uneven fret in the bass side? I dont know if it'd be proper to start a thread about it.. because I know that fret work can suck nowadays even in a $1k guitar..
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"I want it as low as possible with tolerable buzz"
That used to be my goal too but to get "low as possible" the frets have to be perfect which is difficult to maintain,wear ect. I just got used to playing slightly higher action and decided it'd better to get more into the music and less anal about the gear in general. Now that was a worthless comment if there ever was one.
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I like the treble side at 1.5m (at least)

Actually, maybe this helps (I dont want to steal your thread).

I've got .9's in my RG1570 and with factory set up I couldnt get the bass side lower than 2.5mm.. treble is good at 1.5/1.4mm.. Neck is dead straight so I'm guessing there's a uneven fret in the bass side? I dont know if it'd be proper to start a thread about it.. because I know that fret work can suck nowadays even in a $1k guitar..
Is the problem buzz or a dead fret? And at what fret?

Contrary to what many people think, having a 'dead straight' neck isn't actually ideal.

It may actually even be bowed back a bit, not really straight, and that will cause all kinds of problems.
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Re: Recommended action for guitar strings (10-52)

Check the guitars recommended specs as a starting point. A good number of brands will have recommended height and neck relief measurements. From there decide if you would prefer it higher / lower, flatter or more relief, etc..

As it has been said, it's all player preference.
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Is the problem buzz or a dead fret? And at what fret?

Contrary to what many people think, having a 'dead straight' neck isn't actually ideal.

It may actually even be bowed back a bit, not really straight, and that will cause all kinds of problems.
Neck relief is .2/.3mm. It's not dead straight, but almost. Just with a bit of curvature.

The problem is buzz with clean tones.
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I recommend my action for 10-52 would be put 9-42 on them lol.
expecially on a floating trem.
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What brand strings are you using?

Ernie Ball's tend to be a bit buzzy, D'Addario's a bit too.

DR. Tite Fits, in my experience, have the least buzz, but I'm not a big fan of their tone.

http://www.jemsite.com/forums/f21/un...zz-115085.html

Another thread on buzz, and if you search, you'll find many MANY more.
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Re: Recommended action for guitar strings (10-52)

right now my guitars measurements are

BASS 2.1-2.2 mm above the 24th fret (intolerable buzz from 2-24 )
TREBLE 1.9 mm above the 24 th fret (buzzes at 15 -24th fret)

neck relief is .4 -.5 mm at the top of the 7th fret pressed at the 1 st and 24th fret

reference http://www.jemsite.com/articles-menu...od-adjustment/
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