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post #1 of 34 (permalink) Old 01-21-2007, 09:31 PM Thread Starter
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removing trem studs?

Hi I want to remove my ibanez locking studs to put onto a custom guitar I'm having built, is there any way to pull out the locking stud inserts? you know, the bits that are fitted into the guitar not the screw in bit.
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post #2 of 34 (permalink) Old 01-22-2007, 12:38 AM
 
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Re: removing trem studs?

those are so hard to get out, you can try skrewing in the posts and have something grip the posts and try to force it out, or if its a body your going to throw away cut the wood around it, if its ofr or similiar (edge3) you can buy them at all parts for about 12 dollars a set
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put a stud in the insert and you use some pliers to grip it and pull it. IF all works, the stud will pull the insert out as well if you use enough force.
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Re: removing trem studs?

First, trim around the insert with a sharp razor to cut the paint that has "sealed" it in. The thread the pivot stud in at least half way. You can use a small pry bar or even a hammer with a long flat claw, but make sure to use a block or something to protect the guitar body. You want to try and pull straight out as not to chip the wood. If you do happen to chip the wood, however, make sure you save the chips to glue back in.

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Many thanks.
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post #6 of 34 (permalink) Old 01-22-2007, 04:15 PM
 
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Re: removing trem studs?

Well Project Guitar, has a tutorial , which I hope helps.

Just need a board & hammer

http://www.projectguitar.com/tut/trs2lopro.htm
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put a stud in the insert and you use some pliers to grip it and pull it. IF all works, the stud will pull the insert out as well if you use enough force.
Oh, God, No! Not unless you plan on throwing away the stud! Not only that, put if you side-pull the insert enough (not pulling straight up), it will elongate/enlarge the hole.

This is very easy: Get yourself a 6mm phillips-head bolt, about 1-1/2" in length (gotta be longer than the insert), and a stack of fender washers (a stack, again, taller than an insert), with center holes larger than the o.d. of the inserts. Grab one with a smaller center hole, too (You'll see in a sec). If it's a flatmount trem, you simply stack the washers over the insert in question, with the smaller-hole washer on top of the stack. Insert the bolt down through the stack, and thread it into the insert. Take your phillips screwdriver, and start "tightening" the bolt. As you do, it will pull the insert out of the hole.
Now, in the case of a recessed trem, you will have to ensure two opposite sides of the insert are level with each other, so that the washers stack perpendicular to the top face of the body. I usually just use some thick scraps of plexiglass, that I have lying around. But the procedures still the same. I've been trialfitting all the parts on my upcoming project, like this, and it makes things super-simple.

Oh, and if you have a drill press, it really comes in handy as an arbor press, to push those inserts in , for ya. MUCH easier than pounding away on the friggin things with a hammer and block. Yikes!
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Hmm, you lost me at "now in the case of a recessed trem." Why would you have to make sure the opposite sides of the inserts are level? So that you won't oblong the hole?
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Exactly. You want to make it a nice, even pull, straight up. And I use fender washers, because of their large footprint. Helps dispurse the pressure, evenly, without denting any wood.
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Overkill. It's wood, not porcelain.
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Lordy, and here I went at my stud anchors with a hammer and Guitar World magazine for padding.....
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Some people just do, and some turn everything into an egineering project
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Overkill. It's wood, not porcelain.
Overkill? Dude, you are talking about a rather soft material, that is critical in retaining those inserts for tuning stability, especially up toward the top of the holes and inserts, where it's seeing most of it's stress. You want to keep those insert holes as true as possible, really.
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Lordy, and here I went at my stud anchors with a hammer and Guitar World magazine for padding.....
I'm not saying you CAN'T do it that way, but you ARE running a risk.
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Lordy, and here I went at my stud anchors with a hammer and Guitar World magazine for padding.....
I'm not saying you CAN'T do it that way, but you ARE running a risk. Take a look at how a claw hammer pulls out a nail, or the insert for that matter. It isn't exactly straight up, not to mention the technique that I mentioned has a more even, consistant pull, much unlike tugging and jerking on a claw hammer.
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