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post #1 of 18 (permalink) Old 08-18-2011, 09:11 AM Thread Starter
 
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Repairing a stained wood body?

OK, so i've recently aquired this http://www.jemsite.com/forums/f18/ng...tb-114113.html RG570, and as one of the last posts of the thread says, it looks like its been abused rather than used.

now if it was a solid colour paint, then i know there'd be no issue with slapping a bit of wood filler into the big dings, sand, prime and respray.

but with it being stained, is there any way that it could be repaired and/or restained without it showing?

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Re: Repairing a stained wood body?

Im inclined to say its a transparent paint, not stain due to the nature of the chips. Its hard to chip "stain" (obviously clear coat can, but the wood is bare underneath the chips)
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Re: Repairing a stained wood body?

ok, fair comment. but its not just the clear coat/transparent paint thats chipped, theres actually small bits of wood missing. and if i tried to respray, etc, over them, ud see the mangled finish, but if i ise wood filler, in theory (unless people know better than me?!) that show up through the clear/translucent finish too?!
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ok, fair comment. but its not just the clear coat/transparent paint thats chipped, theres actually small bits of wood missing. and if i tried to respray, etc, over them, ud see the mangled finish, but if i ise wood filler, in theory (unless people know better than me?!) that show up through the clear/translucent finish too?!
Hmm. You could sand it down flat and build up clear in that spot? that would work...
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Re: Repairing a stained wood body?

could that be done via spray, or would it be easier and faster to use a brush to apply it?
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could that be done via spray, or would it be easier and faster to use a brush to apply it?
for small chips, nail polish dude.
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Re: Repairing a stained wood body?

That's a tough one! To get it looking right, a complete refinish is in order. I'd just touch up the chunks with blue and call it a day--it won't be too obvious from a distance.



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That's a tough one! To get it looking right, a complete refinish is in order. I'd just touch up the chunks with blue and call it a day--it won't be too obvious from a distance.
well because of the condition its in, thats what im sort of thinking - but then theres the issue of the gravure top, which i dnt think would stand up to being sanded back and refinished, which made me think maybe get a proper flamed top?!
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Re: Repairing a stained wood body?

stripping it with a heat gun will give you the best results.... this finish on the transparents (If yours is the same as my RGT) chips off nicely with heat instead of melting and getting gooey.......... you just have to be careful not to burn the wood while your working.....unless you WANT a BSB gravure top!!!

once the finish is removed, only a minor sanding will be necessary which your top should easily survive......

In the end, even if the veneer is damaged you'll have a good reason to change to flamed maple.
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Re: Repairing a stained wood body?

Just drop fill the chips, it will look fine. I don't get why some of ya'll freak out over a smudge so much.
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Just drop fill the chips, it will look fine. I don't get why some of ya'll freak out over a smudge so much.
I love the "mojo" of some chips and dings!



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Re: Repairing a stained wood body?

Mee too! Plus, it doesn't really matter. Something about Jem guys, they are very superficial as a whole about that stuff. Players of much nicer and more expensive guitars don't blink at a gouge much less a chip, but get some pick marks on one of these and "I have to swirl it so it looks ugly and new". I wonder if they are more "collectors" as players could care less if it sounds and feels good.
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Re: Repairing a stained wood body?

Classic, lumping everybody that plays a certain type guitar together as superficial "chip whiners".

Let's fail to consider there are many types of humans on this planet. While Steve doesn't mind dropping his JEM's on the stage and kicking it around for the "show" effect, Joe takes very good care of his instruments. In fact he cried when a cabinet fell over and took a big chip out of Donne F [before it was stolen]. And we all know he's no player, right? But that's right, he doesn't play a JEM.......
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Classic, lumping everybody that plays a certain type guitar together as superficial "chip whiners".

Let's fail to consider there are many types of humans on this planet. While Steve doesn't mind dropping his JEM's on the stage and kicking it around for the "show" effect, Joe takes very good care of his instruments. In fact he cried when a cabinet fell over and took a big chip out of Donne F [before it was stolen]. And we all know he's no player, right? But that's right, he doesn't play a JEM.......
Im with you man.... I dont understand why people wouldnt play a guitar they bought. If I buy with chips, it has chips. I get FURIOUS if I ding ANY of my guitars though.

Its akin to the "relic movement" of late. I never understood why people pay extra money to have their guitars abused FOR them. I've seen 50's and 60's strats and les pauls that look brand new minus some dirt on the finger board and paint fading.
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Thats a nice project and great looking guitar. If you intend to bring it back up, I would let a pro handle this one.

If not, you could clean up the guitar (get new hardware etc, polish), get it running perfectly, as I imagine it would be a wondeful player. It does break my heart to see guitars like this, having said that a guitar with a story is always fascinating to me as well and this one looks like it has a great story.

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