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post #1 of 7 (permalink) Old 12-27-2005, 09:18 PM Thread Starter
 
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Question Shimming neck angle....

I was looking at the tech setup area and came across this info for adjusting neck angle.

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Adjust the neck angle with a thin shim (business card cut 10mm x 57mm) orientated in the direction of the frets
Bridge sits too high off the body when trying to eliminate buzzing - decrease the neck angle by shimming the body side of the neck joint. This allows you to lower the bridge yet also get lower action. Reattach the neck and lower the bridge to test
Bridge sits too low into the body when trying to get good action - increase the neck angle by shimming the headstock side of the neck joint. This allows you to raise the bridge and lower the action simultaneously. Reattach the neck and raise the bridge to test
Is that backwards? I mean adding a shim to the body side of the neck pocket would cause you to have to raise the bridge. No?
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Re: Shimming neck angle....

No, what he means is you will actually 'angle' the neck in an attempt to eliminate buzzing. It's another way to do it when the bridge is high enough but there is still a buzz.
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Re: Shimming neck angle....

I wonderred why that was asked a lot here [neck angle and buzz]

Bottom line is there are many contributing factors to fret buzz, nut height, string height, metalurgy of the strings, pick attack, fretwork, etc, but there is one thing that has absolutely nothing to do with buzz and that is the angle of the neck. Further, shimming the headstock side of the pocket iss just plain dumb. Raise the bridge, simple enough.
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Re: Shimming neck angle....

If the bridge is high enough, thats why people shim the head stock end of the neck pocket, think about it.
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Re: Shimming neck angle....

Yes thats right, if the bridge is as high as it will go and the action too low, you would shim the headstock side of the pocket. But the info in the tech section states that you would shim the body side in that situation. That would just make things worst.
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Re: Shimming neck angle....

Nobody has ever built a guitar where the bridge could not be raised to get the action as high as ANYbody would like it, or way higher. Now if your preference is to have the bridge flush on the body but the action high enough to play lap steel on, then maybe there would be some use for shimming the headstock side.
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Re: Shimming neck angle....

I disagree. But the purpose of this post was just to confirm that the info was incorrect and to inform Jemsite or whoever maintains the tech section.
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