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Sustainer Route...Take Two

Since it's been mentioned in a couple of threads, I thought I'd start a new one dedicated to this guitar.

A couple years ago, You may remember that I did a sustainer route on one of Jesse's RG760's. While the finished product came out as I'd hoped, my methods in getting there were crude and unprofessional. All the routing I did was by hand with no templates to guide me. There were screw-ups and consequent fixes. This time around I want to take a more methodical approach that is better thought out, and better executed.

I'm taking a lot of pictures along the way so that I don't have to type as much...LOL. Hopefully they explain the process better than I can.

For reference, the RG760 we did previously.
http://www.jemsite.com/forums/f21/co...-118246-2.html

Anyway, here are a ton of pics. If you have any questions- feel free to jump in. I know I have a few of my own.

This first pic is a drawing Jesse sent me showing what he was looking for: It's what I used to guide me in making some templates.



Taking a drawing to reality-





A new sheet of 1/4" acrylic



After cutting the negative out of the drawing

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Becarefull when drilling your starter hole......acrylic cracks easily!! DO OVER!!


Moving on to another part of the sheet..... this is why you buy adjustable adhesive.


Always use a fine tooth blade and GO SLOW!!



cutting well inside the lines:


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Making my template more manageable:


OK....apparently I lost the pics of filing and sanding the template to be the right size.......sorry.

A layer of hardwood floor protector is cheap insurance against accidental bumps and bruises.




Carpet tape is SUPER sticky on both sides. It very tough and very thin at the same time....... I use the two pieces at the top as hinges so that I could be sure the template was positioned correctly before adding the tape that holds the template to the body....... remove the hinge tape after the template is secure. You don't want it to get in the way of the router.


A couple strips of carpet tape holds the body securely to my work surface:


FINALLY!!!! I'm ready to cut some wood.

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Special order router bit- 1/4" cut width and depth with a mini upper bearing.


Ready to cut!!!


Well, that was anticlimactic..... all that prep for one minute of cutting....LOL



Unfortunately, I seem to have lost my offset bearings to do the inner route. I ordered a new set that will, with any luck, be here by the weekend. There's still a ton of work to do in the meantime. I have to make a template for the battery box, and one for the new cavity cover as well. I'll add more updates as they get done........ in the meantime.....PLEASE PRAY for me.....
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Re: Sustainer Route...Take Two

Wow cool! I have to admit I was getting a bit freaked out looking at the pics of my unmolested guitar with a router template on it. I was thinking that maybe I'd made a huge mistake with this!
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Wow cool! I have to admit I was getting a bit freaked out looking at the pics of my unmolested guitar with a router template on it. I was thinking that maybe I'd made a huge mistake with this!
Well, we're not done with this yet..... give me time to screw it up.


BTW.... it's now been FULLY molested.

The last time we did this I had an exact back up "just in case" body....... How wierd is it that I have one for this too?
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Nice work so far.
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Re: Sustainer Route...Take Two

So Ryc, I noticed that the shielding paint wasn't affected in one area. Was that area just a hair lower? I assume what you're doing with this pass is bringing the whole area down to the height where the cover will sit?
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So Ryc, I noticed that the shielding paint wasn't affected in one area. Was that area just a hair lower? I assume what you're doing with this pass is bringing the whole area down to the height where the cover will sit?
Yes, the first cut (as seen) is at the depth needed for the new cover. I just didn't cut out the area where you see the shielding paint. The small router bit I was using makes it hard to reach the center of the cut without the router base falling into the template cutout. All of that area will be cut out when I'm cutting for the full cavity depth using a larger 3/4"x 1" straight bit.
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OK- anybody that doesn't think playing with power tools is fun, is out of their minds....LOL.










Time to break out the shop vac......
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Well, we're not done with this yet..... give me time to screw it up.

BTW.... it's now been FULLY molested.
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Nice work so far.
definitely nice work!

Hey Ryc, that's quite a bit of extra wood coming out of the guitar - I wonder how that will affect the overall sound of the guitar? negligible?
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Awesome job... You do quality work and have the patience to do it the right way!
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definitely nice work!

Hey Ryc, that's quite a bit of extra wood coming out of the guitar - I wonder how that will affect the overall sound of the guitar? negligible?
Thanks Ron, I think the difference is going to be negligible. This new route is roughly the same size as a stock Jackson route, so it can't be all that noticeable, right?

Here's what the stock route on a soloist looks like..... I think it's the same on a dinky too.

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Looking good mate!
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Looking good mate!
Thanks man...... it's slowly getting there.

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Awesome job... You do quality work and have the patience to do it the right way!

Patience is the lesson I learned through impatience....LOL
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