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post #1 of 30 (permalink) Old 08-02-2011, 10:03 AM Thread Starter
 
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thinking about semi-rebuilding my rg2550z

hi all. been a while since i've been here but i'm back lol.

i've been thinking about re-building my '08 rg2550z.

i originally bought the guitar since i wanted a 24 fret, tremolo monster and it served that purpose for a while but my tastes have changed.

i've always wanted an H-S-H RG style guitar with the awesome prestige neck and body with just a hardtail bridge.

so what i'm thinking is to get a new RG shaped body with a black finish and a tight end bridge and connect the neck to that and end up with a badass, H-S-H RG with a locking nut and a hard tail bridge.

i've never been able to fully fall in love with the edge zero. i tried many, many times to set it up in full floating mode (even tried alternate springs from rich) but i could never get the bloody thing to stay in tune perfectly unless it was in ZPS mode and even then it wasn't as stable as an edge or lo-pro so i've taken to just never using the whammy any more. i've decided the maintenance isn't worth the effort anymore either. my playing style has "toned down" a bit too. i'm more into riffing stuff like tool and focusing on getting my soloing more sophisticated (blues/jazz/govan influenced).

how would the guitar function with a hardtail bridge and keeping the nut locked? seems to me like it would be a rock solid tuning situation providing the strings are stretched. only thing is though, rich seems to be the only place to buy tight end bridges (which i'd prefer over the standard gotoh ones) and he's out of stock.

so is this a viable venture? i'm just kind of throwing ideas out there. i'd definitely need a pro to fit the new bridge to the new body but what about the neck? how would you go about fitting the existing one to a new body? i'm thinking of getting a body from ET guitars here in aus, would an RG cut by them just fit nicely onto a 2008 neck?

i'm thinking mahogany for the body too. the basswood body of the RG has never really "satisfied" me in terms of beefiness and sturdiness.

what do you guys think, is this a viable/doable idea? here's a pic of the guitar, for what it's worth. i obviously added the green pickups and knobs and black pickguard. oh yeah, i forgot to mention, i HATE the retarded sparkle finish that comes with this guitar, i've never been able to figure out why they didn't just make it solid black.

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post #2 of 30 (permalink) Old 08-02-2011, 10:19 AM
 
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Re: thinking about semi-rebuilding my rg2550z

hard tail + locking nut is a nasty combo because you won't have fine tuners to keep it perfectly tuned.
Did you consider giving tremolno or other blocking mechanism a chance?
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hard tail + locking nut is a nasty combo because you won't have fine tuners to keep it perfectly tuned.
Did you consider giving tremolno or other blocking mechanism a chance?
true, i hadn't given thought to the fine tuning problem...dunno if i can be bothered replacing the nut too...

damn, that spoils my plan lol...
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Re: thinking about semi-rebuilding my rg2550z

You could glue a gibson style bone nut instead of the locking one. It would be reversible, but ugly
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Why not just block the trem?
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You could glue a gibson style bone nut instead of the locking one. It would be reversible, but ugly
eww, gross. guesd I'm stuck with this edge zero then. does the tremol-no function with the EZ? whats the best way to block an EZ?
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Re: thinking about semi-rebuilding my rg2550z

wow, been eyeing up one of these babies...

http://www.ibanezrules.com/new/rg1421f.htm

i'm very, very tempted to just splurge and buy one.

only thing that concerns me is the nut and the tuners. i haven't played a non locking guitar for ages and i wanna know how well one of these things would stay in tune with lots of bending etc. how much of an improvement would locking tuners be?
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Re: thinking about semi-rebuilding my rg2550z

Locking tuners don't really help keep you in tune. What causes tuning instability the most is an improperly cut nut.

Block a ZR like you block anything else, a block of wood cut to fit in the cavity between the tremblock and body route.
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Sometimes a guitar hits its max potential and you have to live with it or move on.
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Re: thinking about semi-rebuilding my rg2550z

tremolno should work with the EZ, just get the right one, there are few models. I have it on my edge pro and works good.
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T-No is not compatible with any ZPS version, unless you remove it completely.

Unlubed nuts are the biggest cause of nut binding, not improperly cut nuts.
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T-No is not compatible with any ZPS version, unless you remove it completely.

Unlubed nuts are the biggest cause of nut binding, not improperly cut nuts.
Trust me guys, Rich knows his lube...









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T-No is not compatible with any ZPS version, unless you remove it completely.

Unlubed nuts are the biggest cause of nut binding, not improperly cut nuts.
What lube do you recommend for nuts?
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Big Bends Nut Sauce if you want something exotic, or Chapstick is just as effective, and IMO the main ingredient in the BBNS anyway.
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Re: thinking about semi-rebuilding my rg2550z

Just block the trem . . . I taped a thin piece of wood to the inside edge of the trem cavity, tightened up the springs, and now I've got a dive-only monster.
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