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Hi,

I've recently bought a 1994 MIK RG470 that has the infamous LO TRS II trem on it.

I've read virtually nothing but bad things about the LO TRS II so I was wondering what kind of tuning stability to expect from it?

Being totally new to locking trem guitars I have no idea how a poor licensed Floyd Rose would compare to an OFR or an Edge pro when it comes to actual tuning stability.

Basically, after getting the guitar fined tuned to be in perfect pitch using a digital tuner (on Amplitube Metal) then applying 20 or so dive bombs I find the strings to be 5-8 cents flat on the tuner.

So my questions are:

a) Would an OFR on an Edge pro exhibit similar behavior (I read somewhere once that no locking trem will always stay in perfect pitch)?

b) Would a 5-8 cents drop be typical for a cheap licensed Floyd Rose such as a Lo TRS II?

c) Should I be concerned that the 5-8 cents drop could be caused by worn knife edges or any other mechanical issue/fault?

d) Should I even be worrying about a 5-8 cents drop?!?!


Sorry if these seem stupid n00bie questions!

Thanks in advance for your help!

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Make sure you are stretching your strings good, as this can be the cause of a drop in tuning when using the whammy.
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Thank you for your valuable input, however how to use the search function is not the problem I currently face.
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Thank you for your valuable input, however how to use the search function is not the problem I currently face.
Your welcome but your asking a question that has been asked and answered many times. You would have the answers you seek if you were to look for them. You gotta understand I am an ******* by nature and it is not personal
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Your welcome but your asking a question that has been asked and answered many times. You would have the answers you seek if you were to look for them. You gotta understand I am an ******* by nature and it is not personal
No problem, wasn't taking it personally.

Which search terms do you think would pull up the answers I'm looking for?
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trem stability dug up alot floyd rose and trem too. Also read the tech section at ibanez rules site.
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trem stability dug up alot floyd rose and trem too. Also read the tech section at ibanez rules site.
As I'd imagined, the search brought up hundreds of results, though none had the answer to my particular questions.
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So my questions are:

a) Would an OFR on an Edge pro exhibit similar behavior (I read somewhere once that no locking trem will always stay in perfect pitch)?

b) Would a 5-8 cents drop be typical for a cheap licensed Floyd Rose such as a Lo TRS II?

c) Should I be concerned that the 5-8 cents drop could be caused by worn knife edges or any other mechanical issue/fault?

d) Should I even be worrying about a 5-8 cents drop?!?!
A. If properly set up no they would not. ALOT of factors can create the problem your having. Worn knife edges, worn springs, old or improperly stretched strings, trem angle, and loose nut bolts. If a trem is set up right with properly streched strings in good shape you should not notice any real change. Look what Vai does during a song and he stays in tune.

B. Cheap is the key word. They use cheap metals that wear alot quicker than good metals.

C. Don't worry man it is just a guitar. Really read the tech section at www.ibanezrules.com. Set up your guitar to his specs. With the exception of filing knife edges and/or fret work I do all my own work.

D. I dunno bout this one. How obesssive compulsive are you?

Do you really need to be a wammy freak? Hope that helps. BTW the chapstick thing really does work. Lube it man.
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As I'd imagined, the search brought up hundreds of results, though none had the answer to my particular questions.
I found em pretty easily but yes the Lo TRS trems are cheap metals and in my experience don't stay in tune very well. The OFR, Edge, Edge Pro and zero trems are not like the LO TRS with tuning problems and they feel better to use.

For a 5-8 cents drop I'd be smashing my guitar since I have perfect pitch lol so I'd worry about the drop. Especially if it keeps dropping the more you use the trem
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