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post #1 of 6 (permalink) Old 06-27-2019, 04:59 PM Thread Starter
 
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Trying to ID / find proper neck replacement for unknown Ibanez guitar

This is my first post, so sorry if I'm at the wrong area or something.

I have inherited an old supposedly Ibanez guitar (see attached photos) and I want to make it playable but I am having a hard time identifying it. It has clearly been painted at least two times (I can see some blue/green and red spills of paint inside of it).

- It was purchased as a RG-470 (year unknown) from a third part (so there's no invoice);
- There no model or serial written on the body/neck (painted over);
- The electronics are obviously not original, this is an EMG active kit; The middle S pickup is missing.
- The bridge looks like an Edge (Lo-Pro?). The block has an Ibanez logo and "HS" on the other side. Locking nut and tuners are missing.
- There's some faded info in the pocket, but I think it says GR-470 (GR, not RG). Please see the attached photos.

The neck is incredibly twisted, broken and badly glued near the nut and the truss rod is stuck. I have to replace it, I'd like to purchase a new neck, probably used, and see how it goes from there. I want to learn from this project. But at this point, I'm not even sure this is really an Ibanez guitar or some knock off. I like to hear some opinions and possible ids.

Thanks!
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post #2 of 6 (permalink) Old 06-27-2019, 05:04 PM Thread Starter
 
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Re: Trying to ID / find proper neck replacement for unknown Ibanez guitar

I forgot to add the photos of the bridge and neck, but couldn't add to my original msg because of quota limitations. So I added them to this reply.

I had to lower the resolution of all images because of forum limitations, but you can find them in better resolution at the following URLs(*):

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post #3 of 6 (permalink) Old 06-28-2019, 11:11 AM
 
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Re: Trying to ID / find proper neck replacement for unknown Ibanez guitar

Oh my... If that poor guitar could talk!


It probably did not come with EMG's or it would have a separate battery cover on the back of the guitar. I have put EMG's in an RG style guitar and had to cram the 9v battery in the control cavity, so it can work. If you want to use them you can pick up a used EMG SA single coil. They have good wiring diagrams on their website too. Looks like those are the 81/85 (aka Zakk Wylde) set maybe? I used the same set and kind of liked them. Keep in mind that if you use the EMG's, you want to make sure the previous owner changed out the pots to 25k.


You can probably pick up a used 24 fret neck pretty reasonable from ebay or the like. Not sure which neck that is, maybe a Wizard II? Are there any serial numbers on the back of the headstock? I'm no luthier, but I think any modern AANJ 24 fret Ibanez neck will bolt up there. You may have to shim or tweak it to fit well, but that is normal for any guitar.
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post #4 of 6 (permalink) Old 06-28-2019, 02:10 PM Thread Starter
 
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Re: Trying to ID / find proper neck replacement for unknown Ibanez guitar

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Oh my... If that poor guitar could talk!


It probably did not come with EMG's or it would have a separate battery cover on the back of the guitar. I have put EMG's in an RG style guitar and had to cram the 9v battery in the control cavity, so it can work. If you want to use them you can pick up a used EMG SA single coil. They have good wiring diagrams on their website too. Looks like those are the 81/85 (aka Zakk Wylde) set maybe? I used the same set and kind of liked them. Keep in mind that if you use the EMG's, you want to make sure the previous owner changed out the pots to 25k.


You can probably pick up a used 24 fret neck pretty reasonable from ebay or the like. Not sure which neck that is, maybe a Wizard II? Are there any serial numbers on the back of the headstock? I'm no luthier, but I think any modern AANJ 24 fret Ibanez neck will bolt up there. You may have to shim or tweak it to fit well, but that is normal for any guitar.

If this guitar could talk it would scream for help

I'll keep the 81/85 EMG pickups initially, but I will definitely have to redo the wiring, change the pot as you said, etc. it's a complete mess.
There's no serial anywhere. I am thinking this could be a RGR-470. It would make sense with the faded numbers I found in the neck pocket (<scratched dirt>GR - <1 or 4>70), the reverse headstock and bits of blueish paint remains I found inside of it. And the body, neck, etc looks very similar. But of course it could also easily be a GRG-170 body.

Rhe main problem right now is I really don't t know if I should go for a Wizard or Wizard II neck. The dimensions on this one are:
- Width at nut: 43mm
- Width at last fret: 57mm
- Thickness at first fret: 18.5 to 19mm (irregular depending on where the caliper is placed, I guess as a result of the neck being so twisted)
- Thickness at 12th fret: 20mm.

So I guess it could be a Wizard or Wizard II, depending on the year.

With this measurements, am I wrong to assume that any Wizard or Wizard II aanj neck will probably fit?
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post #5 of 6 (permalink) Old 06-28-2019, 03:13 PM
 
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Re: Trying to ID / find proper neck replacement for unknown Ibanez guitar

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If this guitar could talk it would scream for help

I'll keep the 81/85 EMG pickups initially, but I will definitely have to redo the wiring, change the pot as you said, etc. it's a complete mess.
There's no serial anywhere. I am thinking this could be a RGR-470. It would make sense with the faded numbers I found in the neck pocket (<scratched dirt>GR - <1 or 4>70), the reverse headstock and bits of blueish paint remains I found inside of it. And the body, neck, etc looks very similar. But of course it could also easily be a GRG-170 body.

Rhe main problem right now is I really don't t know if I should go for a Wizard or Wizard II neck. The dimensions on this one are:
- Width at nut: 43mm
- Width at last fret: 57mm
- Thickness at first fret: 18.5 to 19mm (irregular depending on where the caliper is placed, I guess as a result of the neck being so twisted)
- Thickness at 12th fret: 20mm.

So I guess it could be a Wizard or Wizard II, depending on the year.

With this measurements, am I wrong to assume that any Wizard or Wizard II aanj neck will probably fit?

I think it definitely looks like a 470 in the neck pocket, but you never know what bodies may be used for what... or if they may have used leftovers when they change models, etc..


I think you are right on the Wizard or Wizard II/III working with that body, as long as it has the AANJ bolt pattern, the right scale, and # of frets. I would go for whatever you prefer, thinner or thicker. Here is a link to Ibanez neck specs:


https://ibanez.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_neck_types


Personally, I like a little thicker neck and the WizardII/III can be found pretty cheap. Should be a fun project and not too expensive... If all goes well you could end up with a nice playing guitar!
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Re: Trying to ID / find proper neck replacement for unknown Ibanez guitar

You should be able to use any 24 fret aanj neck . Some are a mm or two larger or smaller but the bolt pattern is always the same. If there is a small mm gap either side of the neck in the neck pocket, while not ideal, it is not a deal breaker. They will hold pretty well. I know that is the way one of mine is. It was a 421 body with a non-ibanez made replacement neck.

just a preference but I actually like the 85 in the bridge better. It is more full and thick than the 81, which works pretty well in the neck actually.
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