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post #1 of 15 (permalink) Old 10-10-2011, 03:56 PM Thread Starter
 
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Tuning Problems help!!!!!!

i used to have tuning problems with my PRS Custom se 22 ... then i replaced the tuners with locking tuners . The locking ones actually solved my problem , now i can bend or pull anywhere and it wont get out of tune ... stays perfectly fit .. but the main problem appears when i use the tremolo , otherwise its perfectly ok.... if i loose the screw tension and start using the whammy bar , after a few extreme dive bombs or using it continuously for a few moments , the tune problem appears , especially the g string .... will i change the nut or the replace the tremolo bridge with a new one??? please help!!!!
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Re: Tuning Problems help!!!!!!

Are you stretching the strings after you put a new set on? Has this happened with any other string set, or just with the current ones?
Here's some helpful info:
http://www.ibanezrules.com/tech/setup/index.htm



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Re: Tuning Problems help!!!!!!

i don't think the PRS trem is made for divebombs. Its essentially a updated fender style trem. Some nutsauce or led pencil on the nut may help or change the nut to a graphtech nut.
the non se models come with a graphite nut.

If you want to go nuts on the trem get a torero
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Re: Tuning Problems help!!!!!!

Nut work, PRS comes with crappy bind crazy plastic nuts. Get a luthier to make a a bone piece of art and call it a day.

Also vintage trems are not for dive bombs.
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post #5 of 15 (permalink) Old 10-11-2011, 11:46 AM Thread Starter
 
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Re: Tuning Problems help!!!!!!

the only reason i don't like a torero is the active pickups .....
bdw am planning to replace the nut with graph tech black tusq and the bridge with a full contact 6 hole tremolo bridge ......
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Re: Tuning Problems help!!!!!!

A properly cut bone nut will fuction much better than the cheap one that comes stock on the SE models. The TUSQ material is much slicker, but they both will have different tonal qualities which ones is better is very subjective.
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Nut work, PRS comes with crappy bind crazy plastic nuts. Get a luthier to make a a bone piece of art and call it a day.

Also vintage trems are not for dive bombs.

Thats pretty much what i said with the exception that you are wrong and the nuts on normal (not se ) models are NOT made out of crazy bind plastic whatever but are like the graphtech nuts. I think i heard once that GT is actually making the nuts for the non SE line.

OP with all that work and expense you are better off selling what you have and get a torero and change the pickups or get any other floater, the vintage trems and than no locking nut will never have the range of a double locker with a floyd.

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Re: Tuning Problems help!!!!!!

They aren't meant for dive bombs.
You need to do a quick pull up reset after to get them back to zero.
I was told that by a PRS rep.
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post #9 of 15 (permalink) Old 11-08-2011, 05:33 AM
 
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Re: Tuning Problems help!!!!!!

Only double locking trems are dive bombers.
Using a brass nut with lube of one kind or another with help.
The springs in the back need a breaking in period too. You can float the bridge a little too. Doing a trem bar wiggle to try and hit center helps a bit.
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Graph tech is terrible. I refuse to use sell install or work on them.
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Graph tech is terrible. I refuse to use sell install or work on them.
What's the issue? I have heard a lot of good things, and was planning to install them on a couple of my guitars.
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post #12 of 15 (permalink) Old 11-11-2011, 07:03 AM Thread Starter
 
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Re: Tuning Problems help!!!!!!

this is what i am finally settled with :
i installed a Graphtech black tusq xl 43x6 nut and it deliberately solved my tuning problem (along with slight ping that u hear if u bend the strings and use the tremolo)
i also changed the PRS tremolo bridge with a BABICZ FCH 6 hole strat tremolo bridge
the guitar stays perfectly in tune if i keep the bridge flat on the surface , i still can do dive bombs and it doesn't go out of tune
the tuning problems starts when i changed the bridge position to floating . the phenomenal G string tuning problem occurs ..... so i switched to the flat position and am happy with that...
lesson learned: vintage tremolos are not meant for floating !!
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PS: try the FCH strat bridge !!! looks cool on your guitar !!!! especially the whammy bar!!! :P
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What's the issue? I have heard a lot of good things, and was planning to install them on a couple of my guitars.

For one, it's plastic, and sounds like ****.
Two, its plastic and looks like ****.
Three, its plastic and it lasts for ****.
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post #15 of 15 (permalink) Old 11-14-2011, 11:49 AM
 
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Yeah, but they have to be better than the plastic nuts on the guitars in question that look like **** and sound like ****, but bind on the strings like it was the sole purpose of their existence.
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