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post #1 of 7 (permalink) Old 06-28-2004, 08:43 AM Thread Starter
 
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whats wrong with my nut ;)

Hi,

This is one that is baffling me slightly. I have a satriani style korean jobby that had an awful locking nut on it. I replaced this with another locking nut of better quality.

The clamps work and the guitar does hold its tuning pretty well. I am using a LO TRS trem with tremsetter. Works fine.

Anyway on the low E string behind the nut, actually goes slightly flat when trem is bombed and yes slightly sharper when pulled up. I though the nut must be moving, but its screwed and glued very tight. The clamp seems to be workling also. Some of the other strings may be moving slightly, but not very audibly.

Where is the problem?? Could it be due to the neck moving when the tension is released?? Wouldn't this movement cause the small string area to go sharp not flat???

Does anyone else have this problem???

There may be some movement on my Ibanez guitars also, but nothing thats a problem.

The guitar does stay in tune also??

weird

Col
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post #2 of 7 (permalink) Old 06-28-2004, 09:03 AM
 
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the problem is either on your trem, your nut, your saddles, your spring, your posts, your posts knives ecc...

as you'll use a TRS-equipped guitar, i think there's not much to do then...
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post #3 of 7 (permalink) Old 06-28-2004, 09:22 AM Thread Starter
 
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Hiya,

It is nothing to do with my trem. When the trem is dive bombed, the string behind the nut goes slightly flat even though its clamped tightly and screwed and glued!!!

There has to be some movement somewhere causing this, but where??

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post #4 of 7 (permalink) Old 06-28-2004, 11:30 AM
 
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Stop playing the guitar there.

The pad could have a nice grip on the front of the string but be pivoting slightly when you dive bomb. The string would return to pitch because it doesn't lose it's place on the pad. Also it could be happening elsewhere, but you're not hearing it. The low E behind the nut is only about an inch long, and its the thickest string of the bunch. That means the slightest movement will represent the largest pitch fluctuation. If you push on the string there, no matter how stretched it is, it will probably go flat, just from the pressure you placed on the pad and the tuner. Now go back and read my first sentence.
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post #5 of 7 (permalink) Old 06-28-2004, 01:21 PM Thread Starter
 
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Great advice, thanks Frank

I'm just being paranoid right?

I don't have a string retainer bar in that area, do you think installing one would help??


Cheers
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post #6 of 7 (permalink) Old 06-28-2004, 02:28 PM
 
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Originally Posted by frankfalbo
Stop playing the guitar there.
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Just what I was thinking.


So let me get this straight, (possibly inspried by Jimi Hendrix, playing guitar behind his back?) you play the guitar behind your nut, work the wang bar, and it goes flat. And you've tried your other nut too, and it still goes flat.

um, Viagra?





(sorry)
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post #7 of 7 (permalink) Old 06-28-2004, 03:38 PM Thread Starter
 
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Hahahahahahahahaha


well,,, I started doing it to test my nut replacement job and was shocked when it started going flat.........

bugger! I thought none of my other nuts do that.......

then I couldn't work out why...... still can't really.......

it should be fine

must be the clamp like Frank suggests..

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