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post #1 of 7 (permalink) Old 09-23-2011, 03:38 AM Thread Starter
 
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My suggestion to Ibanez

Hello, I have been using ibanez guitar since the day i started playing. So far i have played/owned a 90s mij ibanez ar300, a 2001 s1540f, 1989 jem 77fp, and an rg 2570 prestige.
I really love the quality and construction of ibanez guitar, however it is clear that your present model is not what it used to be in the late 90s or early 00s, (imo your finest moment) the present models simply do not have the classy/exclusive look of older ibanez.
I understand your need to cut cost, but i afraid if this continue you would lose your market to other brand which offer better looking guitar for the price.
I have 2 simple suggestion that will make your guitar looks much better :

1. Matching headstock, how costly is it to paint the headstock using the same paint as the body? This will give even your basic model more balanced looks
2. If you cant get good quality ebony these days, Ebonize the rosewood fingerboard, using black wood/leather stain , this will make the guitar more uniform look, for me dry light colored rosewood simply looks ugly and low quality.

I believe those changes wont cost you more than 50$ per guitar, but this will put you back into my (and many other people) book.
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post #2 of 7 (permalink) Old 09-23-2011, 04:53 AM
 
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.......but I like black headstocks...........and there is nothing cheaper that a rosewood board that is all faux'd up to look like ebony.

Besides $50.00 per guitar to cut in to their profit is quite a bit and I am sure Ibanez would be very happy to pass that cost on to the user. Thats me. No thanks. Survey says BZZZZZZZZZZ.

Sorry you have not sold me. See how you go with Ibanez..

-Wolfram
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post #3 of 7 (permalink) Old 09-23-2011, 08:58 AM Thread Starter
 
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.......but I like black headstocks...........and there is nothing cheaper that a rosewood board that is all faux'd up to look like ebony.

Besides $50.00 per guitar to cut in to their profit is quite a bit and I am sure Ibanez would be very happy to pass that cost on to the user. Thats me. No thanks. Survey says BZZZZZZZZZZ.

Sorry you have not sold me. See how you go with Ibanez..

-Wolfram
fine, we all have different taste for guitar, but i believe i'm not alone on my opinion.
Guitars with matching headstock always looks more special than black headstock to me.
I believe tinted rosewood has been done by other major guitar company before, and on another forum I read that ibanez did this for a particular custom model when they require dark fingerboard.
I came across a very good deal back in 2008, a red spinel RG8470f j custom, but it has this ugly dry looking fingerboard, a big turn-off for me, it looks nothing like the picture on ibanez.co.jp website.
I would pay extra 50$ for a more classy looking guitar.

If this fails, then I guess my only option would be to practice a lot, maybe someday Ibanez would endorse me and build me a custom guitar.
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post #4 of 7 (permalink) Old 10-02-2011, 08:58 AM
 
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.......but I like black headstocks...........and there is nothing cheaper that a rosewood board that is all faux'd up to look like ebony.

Besides $50.00 per guitar to cut in to their profit is quite a bit and I am sure Ibanez would be very happy to pass that cost on to the user. Thats me. No thanks. Survey says BZZZZZZZZZZ.

Sorry you have not sold me. See how you go with Ibanez..

-Wolfram
ok we all have different opinions but if ibanez started doing what ESP guitars are doing, (BTW you can NEVER compair an ibanez with an esp, ibanez is just all around better in price and products) having a custom shop where they leave every single detail to the costomer. they'd have thousands of more people buying and sending requests every day. theyd make tens of thousands of more dollars, have more workers, have more popularitey, ... and well all have th guitar of our dreams. some problems with my theory though. ibanez offers the ibanez 'classic look' on their guitars, especially on JEMS and RGs from the 80s and 90s. if people were just designing JEMS or RGs in their bedroom and recieving them in a months time, wheres the classic ibanez now. Ibanez makes its fans and endorsers because of their originality and price ranges and quality, but with more buisness comes slloppiness. take netflix for example. their popularity is through the roof, but service is horrible they are raising their prices and removing some of its best features. so ibanez should stay the way they are, maybe just add some more exclusive models with say MATCHING headstocks. Whatever you like is fine, but ibanez cant make custom orders to fit thousands of loyal costomers. the only way that will EVER happen is if you magically became Steve Vai overnight, where you can design any guitar you want... ha, acrylic body... original....
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post #5 of 7 (permalink) Old 10-09-2011, 09:03 PM
 
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I remember looking at pictures of the Jem77Vbk before I bought one,,,thinking "why a light brown fingerboard?" It looked pretty weird in all of the photos I could find. WHen mine finally arrived, all it took was some lemon oil, and it was as dark as could be. It was just SO DRY! It was baffling me why Ibanez would put a photo of such a dry fingerboard on a guitar like this to the point where all of the pictures make it look light brown. Since then, I've bought three more Ibby's,,,,and the rosewood boards were all extremely dry upon receipt. But ..it was an easy fix. But at least they should advertise with a nicely conditioned fretboard guitar. I almost passed up this Jem, thinking it had some different grade , really light brown wood - which would be awful on a very black guitar,,,which was not the case. I'm also in agreement on the headstock.....which played a small role in my RG1420F purchases.

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Hello, I have been using ibanez guitar since the day i started playing. So far i have played/owned a 90s mij ibanez ar300, a 2001 s1540f, 1989 jem 77fp, and an rg 2570 prestige.
I really love the quality and construction of ibanez guitar, however it is clear that your present model is not what it used to be in the late 90s or early 00s, (imo your finest moment) the present models simply do not have the classy/exclusive look of older ibanez.
I understand your need to cut cost, but i afraid if this continue you would lose your market to other brand which offer better looking guitar for the price.
I have 2 simple suggestion that will make your guitar looks much better :

1. Matching headstock, how costly is it to paint the headstock using the same paint as the body? This will give even your basic model more balanced looks
2. If you cant get good quality ebony these days, Ebonize the rosewood fingerboard, using black wood/leather stain , this will make the guitar more uniform look, for me dry light colored rosewood simply looks ugly and low quality.

I believe those changes wont cost you more than 50$ per guitar, but this will put you back into my (and many other people) book.
I agree with you!
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post #7 of 7 (permalink) Old 04-17-2012, 09:40 AM
 
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Re: My suggestion to Ibanez

$50 cost is HUGE to a manufacturer, I bet they don't have much invested per guitar for over half the lineup. These are mass produced factory instruments here, it takes very little after the initial shop setup costs to crank these guys out.
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