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not looking to argue - nor do i have time - just correcting spin.

if it's MARKETING reason... say it... don't pretend a redesign is long over due from a guitar player standpoint.

i don't believe that about the molds nor do i think the redesign is an improvement over the original Edge. When you factor in the body changes it was downright stupid but YMMV... glen
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please explain the deficiencies of the LoPro... glen
talking of which !!!
I have a lo-pro in my project guitar and it sucks... the bloody saddles wont stop rattling against the base and I was thinking about putting some hi-viscosity grease under them but I dont really want to cos I will have to sort the intonation again...

I never had any of these probs with my EVEN OLDER - original edge....
now I wish I had bought a plain old edge trem...

have you experienced this "saddle rattling" phenomenon ?
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not looking to argue - nor do i have time - just correcting spin.
You're not correcting anything, there was nothing to correct, just starting an argument.

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if it's MARKETING reason... say it... don't pretend a redesign is long over due from a guitar player standpoint.
The Edge last for SIX years before it was redesigned [after the LPOFR]. But twice as long wasn't LONG overdue?!

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i don't believe that about the molds nor do i think the redesign is an improvement over the original Edge. When you factor in the body changes it was downright stupid but YMMV... glen
JD said that about the molds long after he was gone, believe him or not, what do I care. If you don't think the LP was an improvement over the original then obviously you don't fall into the group of MASSES that like the LP much better than the Edge. I also prefer the Edge, but it's quirky and far out of date, and at least I can see the refinements in the LP for what they are, and ditto for the EP.

Progress must always be down right stupid to you
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have you experienced this "saddle rattling" phenomenon ?
Saddle buzz is the same on all the trems, the joints are connected the same way and to the same tollerance on all of Ibanez trems. It's not rattling against anything, it's just vibrating.
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Saddle buzz is the same on all the trems, the joints are connected the same way and to the same tollerance on all of Ibanez trems. It's not rattling against anything, it's just vibrating.
Rich... Dude - im tellin ya mate, the rattle is so bad that it comes through the amp, it sounds like a REALLY bad fret buzz...

have you come across this ? is grease the answer ?
I could inject it using a 1/2 mm needle or something - then I wont have to worry about the intonation getting messed up !

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correcting SPIN.

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I also prefer the Edge, but it's quirky and far out of date
what frikin quirks? you're not this dense are you?

out of date? ...metal has expiration dates now like milk?

they seem to sell OFRs still no problem. hmmm.... glen
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Doesn't change what it is. Swap saddles with another. Sometimes just changing the angle of the tail [with the fine tuner] will cure it. It's a common glitch.
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correcting SPIN.


what frikin quirks? you're not this dense are you?

out of date? ...metal has expiration dates now like milk?

they seem to sell OFRs still no problem. hmmm.... glen

Quirks like how OPEN the full top where the lock block is and while a block will fall out of a LP once in awhile it will ALWAYS fall out of an Edge. Quirks like when you break a string the lock screw in usually below the rout and you have to depress the bar to use the Allen wrench or marr the top.

Some love the Datsun 240Z, I bet it's because it can outperform my 350, right?

When you go buy and use an EP equipped guitar THEN come back and say your peace. Until then you're just another ill informed neighsayer looking for trouble.
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Quirks like how OPEN the full top where the lock block is and while a block will fall out of a LP once in awhile it will ALWAYS fall out of an Edge. Quirks like when you break a string the lock screw in usually below the rout and you have to depress the bar to use the Allen wrench or marr the top.
ZOMG TEH SKI Z FALLNIG!

good spin but the double lockers are higher maintanence than strat trems which are higher maintenance than fixed bridge axes. none of that warrants a redesign, nor justify the $1/4mil HIT they took.

nothing here was urgent nor "overdue" for a redesign. now if you said "for marketing and economic reasons ibanez wanted to try and redesign a new trem that was as good or better than the Edge/LoPro" that would be something sensible without spin.

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Some love the Datsun 240Z, I bet it's because it can outperform my 350, right?


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Your head is so far up your arse you wouldn't know when the analogy is right on the mark, as it is.

The 1/4Mil hit was for not paying the royalties on the redesign [also part if not the BIGGEST of the reasons for the redesign, to avoid royalties] and not labeling them as Licensed.

In my OPINION it was long overdue.

Wow, the argument neither of us have TIME for
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You two need to hug it out...
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Come on gents, stick together for the children
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I'll be honest, if they could still make Lo-Pros without paying royalties then they're stupid not to, regardless of if it was due for a redesign or not. I could count ****loads of players that would prefer Lo-Pro to Edge-Pro. And wouldn't it bring the price of the guitar down slightly?
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Just as many players [and these are the ones that have actually bought, tried, tested, used] the EP prefer it.

Please everybody, go ahead and try, I dare you!

It would cost no less IMO.
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