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post #1 of 10 (permalink) Old 03-02-2008, 02:45 PM Thread Starter
 
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book or method?

hi guys,

I need your help to become a better player: I need a roadmap!
I can dedicated 3h/week to learn.

right now what I am doing:
- learning songs from tabs
- learning new licks

I am an absolute 0 in terms of theory (i know the pentatonic + shapes) and I find myself doing the same old things when it comes to playing a solo...

I have problems knowing in which key to play a solo sometimes (so the first few notes I play are for me to find the right key and then I use my penta tricks...)

so: is there a good book with an audio cd that would be a step by step approach of music theory (modes, scales, techniques, harmony ...) + practical examples? (like a guitarist survival kit...)

info that could be relevant: I'd like to focus on blues, jazz and rock.
thanks
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post #2 of 10 (permalink) Old 03-02-2008, 02:54 PM
 
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Re: book or method?

I'd highly recommend the Doug Doppler DVD www.guitar411.com
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post #3 of 10 (permalink) Old 03-02-2008, 03:24 PM Thread Starter
 
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hello,

I've got it but I came to the conclusion that I learn better using books + reading tabs than by watching a video.

I'd really like to make the most of these 3h / week: it's like I am always doing the same thing and not making any progress at all. pretty frustrating...

especially when you know that you know nothing!!
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hello,

I've got it but I came to the conclusion that I learn better using books + reading tabs than by watching a video.

I'd really like to make the most of these 3h / week: it's like I am always doing the same thing and not making any progress at all. pretty frustrating...

especially when you know that you know nothing!!
you have exactly the same trouble as me.ive been playing 14 years and STILL CANT IMPROVISE.some take to theory some dont,im the later.
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post #5 of 10 (permalink) Old 03-02-2008, 04:47 PM Thread Starter
 
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Re: book or method?

it's not a curse we can "fight back"

I am sure some people here have managed to learn some theory, found some good exercises and became better guitarists and all that without the help of dvds (because there was no such thing 10 years ago...) or a teacher.

and since people are pretty friendly here they will be willing to share their method

a good planning, a good book with audio files (and a lot of playing of course! ) must have done the trick...
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Re: book or method?

learning the notes on the fretboard will help you play in tonic tons tons more
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done that
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I'd really like to make the most of these 3h / week: it's like I am always doing the same thing and not making any progress at all. pretty frustrating...
Well....the fact that you can only dedicate 3 hours a week certainly doesn't help matters. I do realize that "circumstances" in life can take time away from practice, but if you really want to get better you'll find a way!

Here's something that worked well for me and may help to quell your frustrations a bit. You say you know the pentatonic shapes/scales right?? Sit down a record a simple 3 or 4 chord rhythm in the key of E for example. Then play the shapes/scales that you know over it, but change it up! Make it a rule not to play the same note patterns. It's fun and will help tremendously with your improvisation

If you ever get a chance, play with other people.

Try to write songs

~ROCK~

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done that
i really dont understand what is so hard about not staying in key. maybe learn your key signatures. for example if you are playing in Bb you know you would have a G and E flat
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Re: book or method?

I'd say just momorize the patterns one by one. Start with the simple 1-3-5 chord patterns and learn the scale pattern and jam. Then move to more complicated chord structures where you have to watch out for notes that might not fit when soloing in a selected scale and key.

Honestly, some people make it harder on themselves than it should be. Just relax guitar is supposed to be fun making mistakes makes you learn. It's not a competition.
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