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post #1 of 12 (permalink) Old 12-13-2005, 08:28 AM Thread Starter
 
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C# construction????

A major/minor = A major scale, but how do I make C# chords since there is no C# major scale?

Apologies for dumb question but this is the only way I have been shown of making chords so far...
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A major/minor = A major scale, but how do I make C# chords since there is no C# major scale?

Apologies for dumb question but this is the only way I have been shown of making chords so far...
not sure if i understand the question but there is one major (ionian) scale and you can put it in any key you wish. the formula (w-w-1/2-w-w-w-1/2 step) can be used with any key and the chord formula will follow suit.
I. major R/M3/P5 (Root/Major 3rd/Perfect 5th)
ii. minor R/m3/P5 (Root/minor 3rd/Perfect 5th)
iii. minor R/m3/P5
IV. major R/M3/P5
V. dominant (major) R/M3/P5
vi. minor (natural/relative) R/m3/P5
vii. diminished (minor) R/m3/b5 (Root/minor 3rd/flat 5th)
this formula stays the same in whatever key you play it in.
i hope this makes sense as i don't think i understand what your question is.

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Re: C# construction????

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A major/minor = A major scale, but how do I make C# chords since there is no C# major scale?

Apologies for dumb question but this is the only way I have been shown of making chords so far...
Actually I kinda confused A major do have C#.... the scales for A major go this way A B C# D E F# G#....
Chords for the Amajor is

A major = A C# E
B minor = B D F#
C# minor = C# E G#
D major = D F# A
E major = E G# B
F# minor = F# A C# = relative minor
G # dim = G# B D
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monkeys and shakespeare.... youll get there eventually
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C# Major would be C# E#(F) G#

To create a major chord do as suggested in the first reply, take your root note {C#) then the 3rd would have to be a Major third (since you want to construct a Major chord) which would be E# then add a 5th which would have to be a perfect 5th (G#).
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Did somebody steal the C# Major scale? I hate when that happens.
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There is most definitely a C# major scale. It is not as commonly used due to the enhanced difficulty during sightreading. Most people simply call it D Flat Major unless there is a compelling enharmonic reason to call it C# Major.
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Re: C# construction????

Thanks for your replies, and sorry to have confused you. I said that there is no c# major scale since I have been taught to construct major scales with the root, followed by a T, T, ST, T, T, T, ST. (Tones/Semi Tones)

Like C would be C D E F G A B C. But C# would be C# D# E# G# A# B#
(Where E# is F and B# is C)


My teacher told me that a major scale must contain each note only once so I was just a bit confused myself when trying to get a C# major scale. I understand now though lol. To write it properly you have to use Db major.

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^^^ Oh I see what you mean.... But this C#major scale is very rarely used ..... If they were to use it the would use the enharmonic equivilant the Db major .... It's much easier than C# major
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To remain diatonic, a scale would only consist of each note name once. However, scales such as chromatic obviously contain note names more than once.

As for that C# major scale, it's actually

C# D# E# F# G# A# B# (you left out the F#). Enharmonically, E# is an F and B# is a C, but to keep things diatonic, they become E# & B#.
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Gotcha! Yea I left out the F# by mistake anyway, thanks for helping clear that up.
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No problem. I was just trying to get my post count up!
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