Originally Posted by Wblyheaded
All the info I got on flutter says to pick the note, then flick the bar or run your finger down the bar and pull off the end. This cannot be what Vai or Oz Fox does cause Ive heard some very fast fluttered note riffs. I think they are probably just tapping the bar as they hammer or pull off but I cant get it to sound like flutter.
vai can do it both picked and with pull-offs.
Dude, its honestly not hard, you just have to get used to it. It takes a LOT of practice to be able to do it, but once you get the hang of it, its quite easy.
Fast flutters are often done by keeping the hand over the whammy bar, and hitting the fretted notes legato style.
You have to get used to swating the bar with the right amount of force, and with the bar at the right position. If you want to do it like vai and satch in any way shape or form, I'd strongly suggest flipping the bar 180 degrees. You have to move your right arm a bit more to do it, but believe me, it works better a thousand times over.
Just keep working on it. You know what your doing, you just need to get comfortable with a technique that takes a lot of time.
I spent 3 months straight learning how to flutter. I had weak legato which screwed up my ability to get nice flutters in fast situations.
You'll find that one day, it just comes together like pie crust and filling. Until then, sweat it out, and practice your legato and right arm 'moving' effieciency (from picking position, to flutter position with bar turned outwards). If you bumble around with the right hand, you'll never get it, that I guarantee you.
One more thing....as far as turning the bar outwards to do the flutter, I've had about 3 friends refuse to turn out to flutter, thinking it was just an aesthetic thing. When I finally got them to try it, they released just how much easier it is.
Hope this helps