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post #1 of 24 (permalink) Old 08-23-2003, 01:27 AM Thread Starter
 
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My analysis of the Steve Vai 10 hour workout

Hey guys,

Last week I ran into a kid at the music store who had heard about Vai's 10 hour workout, but wondered how the hell vai found the time to do all that everday

He told me that he wished he could do that, and of course, I told him he could, but that it would require discipline, willpower, and stamina. The thought of 10 hours was just to much for him though.

I went home, and got thinking how everyone thinks it is soooooo cool that vai did a 10 hour workout everyday, and how that in itself has made him a legend of sorts within the guitar community. Its like an urban legend or something, a disney tale of things that are above and beyond most of our wild dreams That's the problem in a nutshell. hardly anyone can/will do it themselves. They're too busy being awestruck as to how vai had that much discipline etc....
admit it, you probably wondered how vai did all that yourself I know I have.

So for the last week, I said [email protected] it, I'm going to do the 10 hour workout, just like steve did, but not for an hour a section, but 10 minutes a section. Who the hell really has 10 hours a day to practice anyway?? Not me, that's for sure, and I'm a certified bum. Let me tell you, after a week of following steve's guidlines for 10 minutes a peice, there is NOTICEABLE improvment in my playing, chords, scales, and sense of melody. 10 hours narrowed down to 1 hour and 40 minutes did wonders. While there's still much to learn, I never thought so few minutes a day could help.

Where the heck did that kid from the music store go, there's something I need to tell him!

The moral of this seemingly pointless ramble is, for all you kids out there (as the famous canadian don cherry would say), YOU DON'T NEED TO DO THE 10 hour workout for 10 hours to get better. Don't be afraid of it, tackle it, do what you can, and believe me, it helps...a few minutes each day does some great things.
Just cover all the ground Dr. Vai reccomends, and push yourself...don't get stuck doing the same stuff over and over again, and you'll be flying.

Anyhow, I hope that my expriences with shortening this rather crazycool method will inspire a few of you to try it on your own, and not be intimidated by it. I really wanted to share this, although its nothing more than common sense. I bet if i see that kid in the music store next week, he'd like to hear it

Bottom line is, the hour 40 minute workout is WAY more manageable than the 10 hour workout to the average joe (no, not satriani ) and thus, he's more likely to do it. So I hope you do, because it still works well.

Would you be more inclined to do it? I know I am

Peace out to y'all.
Dave
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post #2 of 24 (permalink) Old 08-23-2003, 03:24 AM
 
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That's a very good approach, Dave.

Covering all the bases in the time you have available is so important, because if a guy that only has one hour spends it all on just the picking exercises, he's gonna have a pair of fast hands that can't play anything. Your idea is much better.
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post #3 of 24 (permalink) Old 08-23-2003, 06:10 AM
 
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seems like a pretty good idea, i'll have to give it a go.
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post #4 of 24 (permalink) Old 08-23-2003, 12:02 PM
 
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Interesting! Is there anywhere online that has the outline of the 10-hour workout?
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post #5 of 24 (permalink) Old 08-23-2003, 04:18 PM Thread Starter
 
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yeah it is available somewhere....damn, can't find where right now....
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post #7 of 24 (permalink) Old 08-24-2003, 11:15 AM
 
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Hmm.Atm i have a 4 hour technical workout and i havnt been noticing any improvments. Would you suggest i try your way of a simplefied Vai workout for a bit and see if i get better results? If so how should i go about it, should i maybe do my workout one day, then vais the next etc?
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post #8 of 24 (permalink) Old 08-24-2003, 03:23 PM Thread Starter
 
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Personally, I think anything helps....that sounds like a good idea...try it, and see if it works

If not, then mix things up a bit. I think that one of the reasons I'm having success is that I'm consistently trying new things...different chords, different picking excecises. The weirder the better really, as it challenges you to new levels.

And don't think about the improvements, they'll just come on there own
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post #9 of 24 (permalink) Old 08-24-2003, 03:40 PM
 
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Did you follow every excersise in his workout? Im confused as to how much each section needs, and how many of the excersises on the ducoments fit into a section. Call me stupid but hey..
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post #10 of 24 (permalink) Old 08-24-2003, 03:47 PM
 
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I agree, you dont need to practice 10 hours a day to be that good, it's how you practice
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i dare anyone to sit down and play 10 hours a day without a personal proctologist!

its a life or death situation
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post #12 of 24 (permalink) Old 08-24-2003, 04:27 PM
 
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I would play 10+ plus a day if i could as i have the mentallity to just sit there with a metronome hours after hours after hours. But i dont have 10 hours a day so.. And im sure it would end up fu*king me up pyshically somehow
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post #13 of 24 (permalink) Old 08-24-2003, 05:33 PM Thread Starter
 
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yup.

I'm glad you guys are feeling me here. It's very difficult for people to do the amount they'd like...either they can't physically, or they can't due to other commitments.

The look on that kids face at the music store was troubling when he was giving up just because he could never do 10 hrs a day like Vai. It was like he thought he was a failure, or not good enough to do what vai was doing. That's why I felt so strongly about posting this.

A few minutes a day in key areas really can help if your consistent, innovative, and keep things fresh and challenging.
How can't it when you think about it?

Personally speaking, I've benefitted most from doing 10-20 minutes soloing over a chord progression...but avoiding patterns I'm used to, or that I feel confortable with. before you know it, your mind is opened, your prospective is fresh, and your fingers are doing things you wouldn't have thought of otherwise
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post #14 of 24 (permalink) Old 08-25-2003, 11:17 AM
 
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I think that the 10 hour thing Steve has mentioned was on and off, he'd take a break for 30 minutes, and go back to playing. Even my first guitar teacher said "don't practice more than 20 minutes at a time at first", but I think that pyramid style would be a good approach too... starting super, SUPER slowly, hence making your workouts longer, and obtaining finger memory, then slowly increasing, so your workouts take less time but the memory is still retained.

Just wish I had time to practice these days... a baby boy on the way and crunch mode at work don't make things easy for guitar playing.

-Alex
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post #15 of 24 (permalink) Old 08-25-2003, 03:01 PM
 
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Thanx for the info Iwas wondering if maybe someone could type the 10 hour workout up as the scans are great but not really legable. Thanx
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