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post #1 of 20 (permalink) Old 11-06-2005, 10:06 PM Thread Starter
 
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Question about 2 songs from Satch and Vai

In The Mystical Potato Head Groove thing how does Joe do that sweep tap thingy? I've seen the notes to it but don't have a clue at how to approach it. I know the position of hands but all I can produce is random noise. Any help there please?

Also, how does Steve Vai do the tapping in Building the Church. Again I saw the notes but I have no clue of how to do it. I think something like these songs would be awesome to know so I could show off in a music store or in front of people.

So if somebody could explain how these two techniques are done that would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
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post #2 of 20 (permalink) Old 11-06-2005, 10:46 PM
 
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Re: Question about 2 songs from Satch and Vai

If it's the part of Mystical Potato Head Groove Thing I'm thinking of, you do it by muting the strings with your picking hand behind your fretting hand and just tap it out. I don't know of any tricks, you just have to keep practicing it until it's up to speed. I still can't do it at speed though, it's a really fast stretch for me.

In Building The Church you tap with both your fretting hand and picking hand. I've seen Vai do it in the new G3 video. Your fretting arm should be over the fretboard, so that it's basically over the top of the neck. You mute the dead strings with the wrist of that hand. There's a very good tab for this on powertabs.net, by the way.

Good luck!
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Re: Question about 2 songs from Satch and Vai

As giannifive says, you tap out the following with your fretting hand and mute the strings with your picking hand: E 12 12
B 10 10 10
G 7 7 7
D 11 11 11
A 9 9 9
E 7 7

E 16 14
B 14 14 12
G 11 11 11
D 14 14 14
A 12 12 12
E 10 10

It's hard at first, but with the proper technique and enough practice it becomes a lot easier. Hope this helps.
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post #4 of 20 (permalink) Old 11-08-2005, 09:40 AM
 
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Re: Question about 2 songs from Satch and Vai

with mysitcal phgt- do the sweep in lots of three.. it's kinda hard to explain.but people who can play it may help get my point across..
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Re: Question about 2 songs from Satch and Vai

Ooops, that didn't come out like I meant it to.....you get the basic idea though. If you do the lick in fives it sounds smoother than threes, which sound jilted when repeating a pattern, but you should practice it in all groupings for versatility and fluidity.
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post #6 of 20 (permalink) Old 11-09-2005, 04:59 PM Thread Starter
 
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Re: Question about 2 songs from Satch and Vai

thanks for the advice, I'm getting the hang of church, I'm not disciplined enough yet to work at tmphgt, it's so hard just looking at it.
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Re: Question about 2 songs from Satch and Vai

With Mystical Potato you need to put your picking hand behind your fretting hand to mute the strings, as mentioned, and then legato in groups of 3 ie 7 9 11, 7 10 12.

He uses the same technique on the Power Cosmic on Engines of Creation.
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Re: Question about 2 songs from Satch and Vai

Hi ,

I recorded this little vid ( its very sloppy but I didnt have much time ) for you , BTC tapping , I hope it helps !

http://rapidshare.de/files/7632759/BTC.avi.html

not2

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post #9 of 20 (permalink) Old 11-14-2005, 02:28 PM Thread Starter
 
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Re: Question about 2 songs from Satch and Vai

wow that's cool, thanks for the help. I'll work at it.

(and nice guitar
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Re: Question about 2 songs from Satch and Vai

Nice job .

Regards

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Re: Question about 2 songs from Satch and Vai

Ty

been a while since I practiced so it's kind a sloppy :s

but its to give you an idea were your hand should be and what notes to play how

Nick

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Re: Question about 2 songs from Satch and Vai

your site just loads into a blank white page.
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Re: Question about 2 songs from Satch and Vai

Then try this instead

http://www.acidplanet.com/artist.asp?AID=387755&T=3841
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Re: Question about 2 songs from Satch and Vai

sweet Jesus you're good
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Re: Question about 2 songs from Satch and Vai

Well ty very much

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