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post #1 of 10 (permalink) Old 01-30-2019, 02:48 AM Thread Starter
 
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Steve Vai has written a book called Vaideology: Basic Music Theory for Guitar Players

When it comes to music theory, Steve Vai knows what he is talking about, but he never talks about it! This has bothered me for years because there are very few rock guitarists that could write such a book. Vai has the credibility and the knowledge that could make people take notice. I do not know how effective this book will be but at the very least it will NOT be a collection of questionable theory websites with information a mile wide, an inch deep, and half of it blatantly wrong.

Anyways, I ordered Vaideology and it should be here in a month. If it turns out to be a lot better than nothing, it will be a useful source, which is good.
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post #2 of 10 (permalink) Old 01-30-2019, 02:30 PM
 
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I'll probably get a copy.
To be honest I've only had time to keep up on maintaining physical ability. If I've worked on anything new in the last few years, it's more jazz-like phrasing.
I actually learned a bit of theory and modes and such over time, back in the day, but like any language if you don't use it the skill fades. I'd like to again be more conscious of what I'm doing in a literate sense. Maybe this book can help.
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I studied music 30 years ago so I'm really quite rusty now. It looks like a good reference text to read and refresh my memory, I think I'll probably grab a copy.
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I need to get a copy of this.
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post #5 of 10 (permalink) Old 04-14-2019, 07:46 AM
 
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May get a copy to delve into Steve's thinking style. I'm quite well-versed in theory from my university and jazz but I'm interested.
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So what did you think about the book? I did expect a lot more from that book.
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So what did you think about the book? I did expect a lot more from that book.
I didn't expect more than what it ended up being. Vai clearly notes its scope in that video. I thought it was a good all-around text that offered good summation of things. If you're looking for something more advanced and specific - well, maybe if this is successful (which it looks like it will be) he might follow up with something more next level.
For someone like me it's a good refresher. To me, music is a language, like Spanish, Japanese, C++, etc and if I don't use it for a while I get rusty. I was much more on the ball years back on theory, mostly in a modal sense, but lately I'm lucky to get an hour to practice here and there. And that knowledge slips. This book is a decent resource to open up the pages and go "oh yeah, I remember that" or "that seems an easier way to present this idea." But if it were more comprehensive or the book a lot of advance players expected - no, it would have been a lot thicker. Honestly, the thing that most impresses me about it is the good swath of knowledge it presents in such a thin book. It seems to cover a lot, from beginner stuff to more advanced ideas, in a concise manner.
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I didn't expect more than what it ended up being. Vai clearly notes its scope in that video. I thought it was a good all-around text that offered good summation of things. If you're looking for something more advanced and specific - well, maybe if this is successful (which it looks like it will be) he might follow up with something more next level.
For someone like me it's a good refresher. To me, music is a language, like Spanish, Japanese, C++, etc and if I don't use it for a while I get rusty. I was much more on the ball years back on theory, mostly in a modal sense, but lately I'm lucky to get an hour to practice here and there. And that knowledge slips. This book is a decent resource to open up the pages and go "oh yeah, I remember that" or "that seems an easier way to present this idea." But if it were more comprehensive or the book a lot of advance players expected - no, it would have been a lot thicker. Honestly, the thing that most impresses me about it is the good swath of knowledge it presents in such a thin book. It seems to cover a lot, from beginner stuff to more advanced ideas, in a concise manner.
The content is good, but for total beginners who needs the basics it might leave some necessary stuff out. Steve how ever refers to Google and Internet as a source for information but instead of doing that he could have just added a page or two to make it more coherent. I was also a bit surprised to see the books layout a tad unpolished. All and all though now when it's $25 I would say it is well worth the price. It could be cool if Vai joined up with Satch who I would argue is a better teacher and wrote a follow up.
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The content is good, but for total beginners who needs the basics it might leave some necessary stuff out. Steve how ever refers to Google and Internet as a source for information but instead of doing that he could have just added a page or two to make it more coherent. I was also a bit surprised to see the books layout a tad unpolished. All and all though now when it's $25 I would say it is well worth the price. It could be cool if Vai joined up with Satch who I would argue is a better teacher and wrote a follow up.
Satriani's Guitar Secrets is good too. Very thin - containing his Guitar For The Practicing Musician columns, but they're fun.
Honestly, there is generally an abundance of resources out there now that didn't exist when I started playing. Unless you went to actual school you were kind of SOL when it comes to theory.
Steve also seems to have a very busy schedule. (I wish he'd make a new record though, but that's another thread.) I'm actually impressed he put this together on a first run. Granted, he's been writing and transcribing music forever, but putting it together in a cohesive text like this is a different thing.
I'd bet good money he comes up with a follow up. But, like his album releases, we might be waiting a while.
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post #10 of 10 (permalink) Old 07-04-2019, 10:23 AM
 
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Have to check Satriani's Guitar Secrets, it was released way back, but the guitar is not a new instrument either :-) I have to agree about the online communities, it's a totally different playfield compared to 20, 10 and even just 5 years back, and that covers pretty much any field of interest not only software development and Internet related stuff. It's good to see Steve busy though, would be interesting to see his decisions in the trade off between fun, personal development and economy, if there is any.
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