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post #1 of 16 (permalink) Old 09-21-2016, 10:40 AM Thread Starter
 
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Where are all the good music teachers?

Perhaps they are hiding or too busy making music. I can't seem to find any decent guitar teachers in my area. I live in Toronto Canada.

I don't know about you but my criteria for a good teacher are...

- Knows how to teach, communicates well
- Understands music theory and can integrate it
- Doesn't use Hal Leonard books or scribbles on the back of napkin
- Knows a variety of music styles/genres
- Can teach beyond beginner levels and at a faster pace

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post #2 of 16 (permalink) Old 09-21-2016, 11:08 AM
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Re: Where are all the good music teachers?

Perhaps try your local college music program. College professors should be able to handle your criteria.
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Perhaps try your local college music program. College professors should be able to handle your criteria.
College... eeks.. I haven't stepped inside one of those in 20 years This has to be a part-time thing ideally on the weekends.

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Re: Where are all the good music teachers?

A lot of the college music professors I know also teach on the side.
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Re: Where are all the good music teachers?

Hmmm I wouldn't know how or where to look. I don't think they advertise. Anyone in the TO area that can refer me to someone?
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Hmmm I wouldn't know how or where to look. I don't think they advertise. Anyone in the TO area that can refer me to someone?
This guy is good. https://music.utoronto.ca/our-people.php?fid=164
Email him asking about lessons. He may not teach privately but I guarantee you he knows other good guitarists that do.
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This guy is good. https://music.utoronto.ca/our-people.php?fid=164
Email him asking about lessons. He may not teach privately but I guarantee you he knows other good guitarists that do.
I messaged him lets see where this goes thanks for checking it out
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Re: Where are all the good music teachers?

What do you want to learn?
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What do you want to learn?
Good question... In short, everything a good player should know. Knowing the fretboard, playing easy to advance songs, and being able to demonstrate knowledgable skills if you know what I mean.

Long story.. following some sort of curicculum like this... http://www.classroomguitar.com/4%20y...curriculum.htm

and since I'm asking on an ibanez forum, ideally with an electric using modern songs. I find that a lot of electric players lack a lot of discipline and knowledge. A lot of of them are self taught. The teachers that have more structure generally only play classical, and sometimes thats all they know.
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Re: Where are all the good music teachers?

How long have you played guitar?
What can you play?
What do you know already?

Learning from Jazz guitar players is the best route to go, in my opinion.

It's good to get a new guitar teacher every 6 months for a fresh perspective.
Also, make sure they are teaching you in a way that feels right to you.
If you can't gel with a teacher, you won't learn anything applicable to your goal(s).

The biggest place most guitar teacher lack is the ability to teach physical technique.
99% of them don’t show you exactly how to use your hands. They just tell you what to do and not how to do it.
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How long have you played guitar?
Too Long
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What can you play?
Too little
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What do you know already?
Not enough

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Learning from Jazz guitar players is the best route to go, in my opinion.

It's good to get a new guitar teacher every 6 months for a fresh perspective.
Also, make sure they are teaching you in a way that feels right to you.
If you can't gel with a teacher, you won't learn anything applicable to your goal(s).

The biggest place most guitar teacher lack is the ability to teach physical technique.
99% of them don’t show you exactly how to use your hands. They just tell you what to do and not how to do it.
Seriously though, I can play a number of things but I don't think its good enough for recording if you know what I mean. Still very sloppy. Basic Chords, Arpeggios, Some Scales. Yeah, I agree I need someone who know how to use their hands. Then there are some teachers who do know how to play, but can't explain a dime of why they do it that way or the theory behind it.

I also find that if you learn too fast, you don't develop the required skills. Some skills should come with a practice guide. e.g. the average person needs 2 weeks of practice x 30mins every day otherwise you won't master this skill to move on to the next subject.
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Re: Where are all the good music teachers?

Maybe set time aside and hone what you do have, (get away from sloppy skills).
Then when you've run out of things to do, then look for a good teacher.
You may find more direction with what you want to do after that.
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Re: Where are all the good music teachers?

There are some great internet resources these days for technique. Two that I have used and learned a lot from are:

Ben Eller (uncleben on jemsite)
Troy Grady's cracking the code website

My playing has improved for the first time in 20 years after perusing the info presented by these two. I believe Ben also does skype lessons if that is an option you are thinking of.

I wish you great luck in your search. Finding a good teacher is definitely important.
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Re: Where are all the good music teachers?

I honestly think you just have to do it yourself. A teacher helps but discipline and study on your own is what it its going to take. Get a couple of good books and work through it.
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I honestly think you just have to do it yourself. A teacher helps but discipline and study on your own is what it its going to take. Get a couple of good books and work through it.
Can you recommend any books or learning approaches? I prefer structure and well written/verbal content.

I agree though that its like 90% student effort and 10% teacher. Books however can't teach technique well or correct for mistakes/bad habits.

Some teachers expect you to fork over $ every week. I would be happy to find a teacher that leans more towards "as required" lessons. Here is some material that will keep me busy for 30 days - come back when you are ready
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