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post #1 of 14 (permalink) Old 03-26-2019, 02:09 PM Thread Starter
 
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Best pedal ever!

I've tried individual pedals and all-in-one processors trying to get that "sound" I hear in my head... Finally after all these years I bought a pedal I should have bought first... an EQ pedal! With all the controls to shape your sound on pedals, processors, and amps I always thought I didn't need one and spent the $$ on flashier things. Still had trouble getting rid of the muddiness when chugging that low E, brightening up the sound when on the neck pickup, etc... So I went to he local music store and bought a Boss GE-7. Wow! What a game changer... Wish I had bought one years ago! So easy to dial in your sound no matter what you need... With pedals or processor, no problem. Best money I ever spent on anything gear related!!


Just passing it on... If you play electric guitar and don't have one... Get one!
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post #2 of 14 (permalink) Old 03-26-2019, 05:35 PM
 
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Re: Best pedal ever!

Are you using it in front of your amp or in the FX Loop? There is a big difference...

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Are you using it in front of your amp or in the FX Loop? There is a big difference...

Well... In the loop, sort of. Guitar - Boss ME-80 processor - EQ pedal - into the FX return on back of the amp.


I wasn't sure if I should go into the EQ first or what... What way do you suggest?
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Well... In the loop, sort of. Guitar - Boss ME-80 processor - EQ pedal - into the FX return on back of the amp.


I wasn't sure if I should go into the EQ first or what... What way do you suggest?
Basically the way you are doing it. I am not sure how familiar you are with the Mesa Boogie Mark Series amplifiers but the built-in 5 band graphic EQ is between the preamp and power amp. The experience of engaging the EQ on Channel 3 of a Mark IV is like hearing a wall of roaring tigers and a choir of angels simultaneously. It is wonderful! The problem is when you turn it off, the tigers and angels go away too. (Those are technical terms by the way.
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Basically the way you are doing it. I am not sure how familiar you are with the Mesa Boogie Mark Series amplifiers but the built-in 5 band graphic EQ is between the preamp and power amp. The experience of engaging the EQ on Channel 3 of a Mark IV is like hearing a wall of roaring tigers and a choir of angels simultaneously. It is wonderful! The problem is when you turn it off, the tigers and angels go away too. (Those are technical terms by the way.

Well good... I guess even a blind squirrel finds a nut every now and then. I hadn't really thought about it too much, but tried it in between the processor and fx return and it immediately woke up the entire setup. It was like the clouds parted and a sun beam illuminated the room! So I think I know what you mean regarding the tigers and angels... I started going through my favorite presets, switching guitars and pickups, etc... What an amazing little pedal! I've had a lot of pedals come and go in my search for a good versatile setup, but this was a total game-changer.


When using pedals into an amp I used to just put "time based" effects in the loop, like delay, flanger, etc. Would you still put the EQ in the FX loop in that instance?


No, I've never tried a Mark IV, but my daughter's boyfriend just bought a Roadster that I want to test drive...
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Well good... I guess even a blind squirrel finds a nut every now and then. I hadn't really thought about it too much, but tried it in between the processor and fx return and it immediately woke up the entire setup. It was like the clouds parted and a sun beam illuminated the room! So I think I know what you mean regarding the tigers and angels... I started going through my favorite presets, switching guitars and pickups, etc... What an amazing little pedal! I've had a lot of pedals come and go in my search for a good versatile setup, but this was a total game-changer.


When using pedals into an amp I used to just put "time based" effects in the loop, like delay, flanger, etc. Would you still put the EQ in the FX loop in that instance?


No, I've never tried a Mark IV, but my daughter's boyfriend just bought a Roadster that I want to test drive...
Just to clarify, the graphic EQ sliders on the Mark Series need to be set in a "V" curve (scooped mids) to get the tigers and angels. This tone works as a heavy rhythm tone, effortless lead tone, and can always be heard. The point was how powerful an EQ can be when placed between the preamp and power amp but I am not accounting for many other factors that make the Mark Series amps sound good.

I would put the EQ in the FX Loop but before the time based FX.

The Roadster is a "great" amp!
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Re: Best pedal ever!

I've been there.
for once I thought the GE-7 helps me shaping the tone to my liking.
it can be use for volume booster as well.
but after a while, I realized I miss the warm and organic of the amp.
so at the end of the day, I'm better without it.

I use it on fx loops.
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Right... it is nice to be able to switch it on and off. My brightest guitar is an old '89 540S and I find I don't need the pedal to brighten the sound as much as other guitars, especially ones with vintage output pickups. Nice to have it for a boost or treble boost for solos though.


Since I got the pedal I discovered something else. Did you know that most guitars have a tone knob? You know... that knob that you never touch that's down by the volume knob? Just kidding of course, but I never ever touched my tone knob until now. I can brighten the guitar enough that at times I actually roll off the highs a bit, during a verse, etc... I like the versatility the eq pedal adds to my setup.
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I've got an EVH 5150III EL34 head and matching cab. It sounds amazing as is, but I can't play it anymore without my MXR 10 band in the loop. Its like taking a blanket off of the cab, opens is up SOO much more.

I've played a TON of high gain amps, have never found one that didn't need an EQ to really get it to open up and thrash.

Best pedal on my board, couldn't live without it.
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Are you using it in front of your amp or in the FX Loop? There is a big difference...
Not trying to hijack the thread, but I have a Peavy 6505+ Combo. Thinking about getting an eq a noise suppressor. I have read that the amp needs some mods done before the FX loop actually works. I'm not sure how to do the setup once(if) I get these two pedals. I will probably go with Boss. Any thoughts or suggestions? I only use metal pedals (HM-2, ML-2, MT-2 & Digitech Death metal and hot rod).
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Not trying to hijack the thread, but I have a Peavy 6505+ Combo. Thinking about getting an eq a noise suppressor. I have read that the amp needs some mods done before the FX loop actually works. I'm not sure how to do the setup once(if) I get these two pedals. I will probably go with Boss. Any thoughts or suggestions? I only use metal pedals (HM-2, ML-2, MT-2 & Digitech Death metal and hot rod).

Most of the time it is best to use any kind of boost or distortion type of pedals plugged in to the front of the amp (plus whammy, wah, etc), but any time based pedals (delay, flanger, chorus, etc) in the effects loop. Not sure about a noise suppressor... I've seen them used as the last pedal in line in front of the amp, but maybe could be used as the last pedal before the effects loop in? Lots of good videos on youtube about pedal order.


Hard to go wrong with Boss... I was going to get an MXR 10 band EQ, but my daughters got me a gift certificate for a local music store for Christmas so I went with what they had. Very happy with the Boss, it just lives in between the multi-fx processor and the effects return.
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Most of the time it is best to use any kind of boost or distortion type of pedals plugged in to the front of the amp (plus whammy, wah, etc), but any time based pedals (delay, flanger, chorus, etc) in the effects loop. Not sure about a noise suppressor... I've seen them used as the last pedal in line in front of the amp, but maybe could be used as the last pedal before the effects loop in? Lots of good videos on youtube about pedal order.


Hard to go wrong with Boss... I was going to get an MXR 10 band EQ, but my daughters got me a gift certificate for a local music store for Christmas so I went with what they had. Very happy with the Boss, it just lives in between the multi-fx processor and the effects return.
Thanks. As I build my pedal inventory I'll work this in.
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Not trying to hijack the thread, but I have a Peavy 6505+ Combo. Thinking about getting an eq a noise suppressor. I have read that the amp needs some mods done before the FX loop actually works. I'm not sure how to do the setup once(if) I get these two pedals. I will probably go with Boss. Any thoughts or suggestions? I only use metal pedals (HM-2, ML-2, MT-2 & Digitech Death metal and hot rod).
Since you do not have any reverb or delay pedals, the noise suppressor should go last. If the FX loop does not work, the noise suppressor should go last. If the FX loop does work, the noise suppressor should go last. It keeps the riff-raff (noise) from getting to your speaker.
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post #14 of 14 (permalink) Old 05-24-2019, 01:15 PM
 
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GET AN EQ FOR THE 6505. I've owned a couple, changed speakers, upgraded tubes, nothing, I repeat, NOTHING made as big of difference as placing an MXR 10-band EQ into the effects loop. Felt like an entirely different (and much better) amp.

Small tweaks will do wonders.
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