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post #1 of 15 (permalink) Old 01-04-2008, 10:08 PM Thread Starter
 
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Best tube high gain amp at bedroom volumes

Title says it all. I'm looking for thoughts and recommendations for a great tube high gain amp which sounds good at relatively low volumes.
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Re: Best tube high gain amp at bedroom volumes

What's the price range and what tones you're looking for? "Great" is a relative term, you know.
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Well, I've got the cleans and blues gain tones covered well by my Boogie LSC but I'm looking for more the Petrucci tone - only in much lower volumes. Budget is around $2K.
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Re: Best tube high gain amp at bedroom volumes

Hmmm, $2k; used Triaxis for $1000 a used peavey 50/50 tube power amp around $300 and a used 2x12 for around $200-$300 and any decent used f/x processor or pedal for delays should get you Petrucci's tone at low volumes..

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Re: Best tube high gain amp at bedroom volumes

Mark IV sounds great at bedroom volume as does and ENGL Special Edition, Blackmore, and Savage 120. VHT Ultra-Lead doesn't sound too bad at low volume either.
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Well, I've got the cleans and blues gain tones covered well by my Boogie LSC but I'm looking for more the Petrucci tone - only in much lower volumes. Budget is around $2K.
You already like the Mesa tone so I can recommend the new Express series amps. The low wattage mode actually does work well.

Also, the Mesa mark 4 has a very flexible and easy to dial in master volume.I own one and it is very easy on the ears even at bedroom volume.You can get a nice used one for about $1200.00
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Re: Best tube high gain amp at bedroom volumes

Peavey JSX. I run a hotplate with mine, but truth be told, there's no need to. It sounds as good to me with the volumes all at 1 as it does through the hotplate with things around 5.

It's a whole lot cheaper than $2k as well.
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Re: Best tube high gain amp at bedroom volumes

I'll second the Mesa Express series. Mesa has a few others that will sound great with lower wattage settings (Lonestar Special is one I believe). The bang for the buck would be the Express 5:50 and 5:25 IMHO.

How about a Peavey Collosal? j/k
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post #9 of 15 (permalink) Old 01-07-2008, 10:31 AM
 
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Vox Valvetronix AD60VT or AD120VT. Choose the 1 watt setting with the Recto or Boutique OD presets. These amps are seriously under-rated and now discontinued but they sound great. Just don't ever patch into the insert jacks as they will become intermittent.
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post #10 of 15 (permalink) Old 01-07-2008, 10:48 AM
 
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Re: Best tube high gain amp at bedroom volumes

I've used a Marshall 6101 30th Anniversary combo at home as a recording amp. It's pretty much the UK answer to the Mark IV. It has a low volume compensation circuit, which works great. It also does those smooth hi-gain lead sounds like Satriani, Vai, Petrucci etc quite well (Satriani actually used the 6100 head live throughout the 90s, until he got his JSX signature).

You can listen to some recordings on my soundclick page: http://www.soundclick.com/bands/defa...?bandID=436524
There are quite a few that have been recorded with the 6101 mic'ed up at home, so at pretty low volume.
One of my favourites is this one: http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page...songID=4441749
I think I caught quite a good tone with the mic that time.
This one is not bad either, I think: http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page...songID=4221952

I think that's the kind of sound you're looking for anyway? Reasonably Petrucci-ish.

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Peavey JSX. I run a hotplate with mine, but truth be told, there's no need to. It sounds as good to me with the volumes all at 1 as it does through the hotplate with things around 5.

It's a whole lot cheaper than $2k as well.

I agree with Heffer. This amp will kick ass on stage as it will open up tons at loud volumes but can still be quiet enough for some quality miking. And inside the house, well what with a Master Volume you can turn your channels on as high as you want to get the tubes nice and saturated and then leave your master at 1 if it's too loud for your roomies.

Anyways, great amp and has so many tone colors. The possibilities are endless.
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I was SERIOUSLY underwelmed with the Express series. It's not that they sounded bad, exactly, it's just the F-series they replaced sounded much better, both clean and high gain. The bluesier stuff was nice, but the Lone Star Custom was much nicer for that anyway, so the Express wouldn't really bring anything new to the table.

I'd say if you like Mesas, either a Nomad 45 or an F-30 would work well. The Nomad is stupidly versatile, sounds silky smooth at low volumes, and can crunch it up nicely on the third channel too. It never gets quite as feral as a rectifier, but it does the smooth mesa lead thing a lot better and has a bit of modded marshall color to the sound in Vintage on the 3rd channel, thanks to those EL-84's. Meanwhile, Modern will cover Petrucci nicely.

The F-30 isn't nearly as versatile, but has a great clean (think Fender on edge of breakup, as opposed to the chewier Lone Star) and while the gain sound doesn't cover half as large a range of textures as the Nomad does, for a guy who's looking for petrucci like sounds I think you'll be happy.
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Re: Best tube high gain amp at bedroom volumes

Another vote for the JSX. It sounds so sweet, even at low volumes
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My Diezel "Herbert" sounds good at low volumes...(It might be for sale ) I haven't made up my mind yet...
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Re: Best tube high gain amp at bedroom volumes

JSX still sounds full and powerful for lead playing when at bedroom levels - i recommend it.
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