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post #1 of 18 (permalink) Old 01-09-2004, 05:35 PM Thread Starter
 
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Cornford Hellcat

Im seriously considering one of these amps! But at 35w is it going to be loud enough for gigging? Peoplehave told me that these amops are LOUD but 35w seems a bit small, i might have to consider the mk50.

Can anyone give me and advice from experience or otherwise?


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post #2 of 18 (permalink) Old 01-09-2004, 06:01 PM
 
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my mates 30watt laney valve amp was plenty loud enough for a good sized pub gig.
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post #3 of 18 (permalink) Old 01-09-2004, 06:39 PM
 
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and if its any bigger than a pub gig you could most likley mic it up anyway

35w should be fine, plus you can really crank it up and get all that nice power amp distortion
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post #4 of 18 (permalink) Old 01-09-2004, 07:15 PM Thread Starter
 
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The kinda gigs i get are small halls (bigger than a pub) but often no option to mic it up im just wondering roughly how far it would go with out PA support!
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post #5 of 18 (permalink) Old 01-09-2004, 09:29 PM
 
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I used to own a 45-watt Mesa/boogie Rocket-44. 1x12 speaker cab, handful of EL84's in the back. I rarely gigged with it above three, and the band I was playing with at the time was pretty damned loud.

If this is your first tube amp, i think you're going to be blown away at just how loud a low-wattage amp can be. Personally, I'm holding out for a good high-gain multi-channel 10-watt head, because i really doubt I'll ever need more than ten watts running hard, and if I ever do, I'll be mic'ing it.

Half the fun of a tube amp is running it hard- a low-wattage amp allows you to do this without scaring off your audience. I'm sure 35 will be moooore than ample.

-D
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post #6 of 18 (permalink) Old 01-09-2004, 10:36 PM
 
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You won't be disappointed. The hellcat sounds phenomenal, if it isn't loud enough (which I can't imagine) you can always slave it to a bigger power amp, but just remember to keep a speaker load on it. The hellcat is probably the ultimate amp for me, but they're like $3500 over here stateside. Need to schedule that business trip to the UK and take an empty road case...hmmmmmm.
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post #7 of 18 (permalink) Old 01-10-2004, 04:25 AM
 
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i tryed so hard not to post i realy did.

THE HELLCAT RULES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!
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i tryed so hard not to post i realy did.

THE HELLCAT RULES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!
Trust you m8
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post #9 of 18 (permalink) Old 01-11-2004, 02:49 PM
 
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dissassociative- got any sound clips you yourself have recorded of the thing in action? The ones on their site rock, i just want to hear what it sounds like in the hands of one of us, working on their own.

also, how much cheaper do they run abroad?

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post #10 of 18 (permalink) Old 01-11-2004, 04:53 PM Thread Starter
 
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there are no clips of the hellcat on their site. And a hell cat head here is about £1600
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post #11 of 18 (permalink) Old 01-11-2004, 05:04 PM
 
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unfortuantly i cant record the hellcat at the mo.

im doin alot of material for an album of sorts but its all in demo stages, the final will be recorded with the hellcat (for the most part)

but untill i get 2 doin the final recordings (could be a year or so) i cant record the hellcat at my house.
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post #12 of 18 (permalink) Old 01-11-2004, 05:07 PM
 
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oh and he is write when he says there is no hellcat sound clips on the site but the hellcaty is capeable of all the sounds u hear from the other cornford amps, its the most versatile amp they do.
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post #13 of 18 (permalink) Old 01-13-2004, 03:49 AM
 
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I used to own a 45-watt Mesa/boogie Rocket-44. 1x12 speaker cab, handful of EL84's in the back. I rarely gigged with it above three
That's because of Mesa's dirty little trick with volume control. They use "shunt" circuit - there are two resistors, one of them has constant resistance and another is variable (mistakenly called potentiometer by just about everyone) and tied to the ground. If they wanted to do this right they'd have to use reverse-log potentiometer there. These pots are very hard to find, but they could have placed a custom order or something. Instead Mesa uses linear potentiometers in their amps, so the change in volume is very non-linear (our ears are logarithmic). Strangely, this helps them sell their amps. Folks come into the store, turn the Mesa up to 3 and say "wow, dude, that's f#cking loud!", even though it doesn't get that much louder after that.

BTW, I've owned this amp and I regret selling it. It had excellent distortion.
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post #14 of 18 (permalink) Old 01-13-2004, 05:13 AM Thread Starter
 
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Do you have to rebias this amp whe changing the power tubes bbeeing as its el84?
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post #15 of 18 (permalink) Old 01-13-2004, 10:09 PM
 
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Well, you don't really have to. Some amps really require re-biasing, but this mesa runs tubes pretty cold, so it's very unlikely that they'll burn out due to bias error. And even if you wanted to bias it, there's no bias pot in Mesa Subway Rocket anyway.
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