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post #1 of 10 (permalink) Old 08-01-2003, 02:31 AM Thread Starter
 
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Couple Questions for playing live

Hey guys, hopeing someone out there can help me with this.

I just got together with a few of my friends, and we're thinking about getting out and about on the local scene. Problem is I have a straight acoustic with no electric imput/output, so I'm going to have to mic the acoustic. I also need to get a mic for when I sing as well. What's everyone's suggestion? Another friend who plays electic suggested the Shure 57 for my acoustic and the Shure 58 for my vocals.

Also, I obviously need to connect the Mics to something. What would everyone's opinion be on a good amp for the acoustic and for the vocal mics? For a live gig, could I just get away with an amp for the acoustic mic, and just go straight into the house PA system for the vocals?

Hope this makes sense, I'm kinda a novice at all the recording/live aspects, more into the actual jamming aspect!!!!!!


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post #2 of 10 (permalink) Old 08-01-2003, 03:21 AM
 
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I'd send both mic's to the PA. Vocals and the guitar.
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post #3 of 10 (permalink) Old 08-01-2003, 04:37 AM
 
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agree.
get the 57 & 58 mics as they are relatively cheap and very good and reliable mics.
i too would plug them directly to the mixer, as it's easier and cheaper than getting an amp.
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post #4 of 10 (permalink) Old 08-01-2003, 06:26 AM
 
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Great advice. I second it. An amp is unecessary, and them be's two good mics.
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Cant beat those sure 57/8s
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Cant beat those sure 57/8s
You shure can't.... sorry, I'm bored.
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post #7 of 10 (permalink) Old 08-01-2003, 12:55 PM
 
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going a litttle off topic...

I got a great deal on an SM58, and I plan to use it to record. What are the major differences between a 58 and a 57, and are my recordings going to suck because im using a 58?

Im a novice with recording too :P

-Andy

PS- If your looking for your own PA, online and brick and mortar music stores usually sell packages deals...ie powered mixer, speakers, microphones, stands and cables for everything. If you go that route, expect $600-$1000+ range(new).
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post #8 of 10 (permalink) Old 08-02-2003, 01:41 PM
 
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Have you considered a quick mount sound hole pickup? Dean Markley, DiMarzio and other companies have some nice models available. They mount with clamps or clips directly under the strings in the soundhole.

You will need either an amp or a direct box to go into the pa.

Here's a nice Dean Markley unit that our lead vocalist uses on his Martin.



Using a pickup will allow you more freedom on stage. With a mic, you are stuck in one position.
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post #9 of 10 (permalink) Old 08-02-2003, 02:14 PM
 
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you don't want to mic your acoustic for live gigs. Go with the pickup as ScreamJem suggested.

Using a mic, you're stuck in one spot - you cannot move or nobody will hear you anymore. Also, you'll have to crank up the mic to the point of feedback just to barely hear yourself...and if you do move, the mic will definitely feedback.

As far as a vocal mic, it depends on whether you're singing lead or background...if you're just a b'ground guy, a 58 is fine...a 59 is always 'fine'...if you're a lead singer, I'd recommend something better than 'fine'. A beta 58 is an immediate improvement. I LOVE the Sennheiser e835s which are comparable in price to the 58s but sound 10x better.

As far as recording with a 58 or a 57, either one is 'fine', but it's not what I would use to make a recording. You don't have to spend thousands, but you should spend a little.

~K
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This is supposed to be amazing for exactly what you want to accomplish. use this with a vocal mic, a guitar mic and a pup all at the same time if you want.

http://www.carvin.com/cgi-bin/Isearc...2=AG100D&P1=AG

http://www.carvin.com/reviews/ag100drev.html
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