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post #1 of 3 (permalink) Old 06-26-2005, 08:59 PM Thread Starter
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different amp/cab options

hey guys. Lately I've been thinking about different ways to set stuff up. And I thought about in a live setting, it's really no different what you use because in the end it's all going through the huge mains anyway. So what's the difference between miking one speaker of a 4x12 cab and miking the one speaker of a tiny practice amp like a Fender champ or something? Say you had a champ and a Mesa Bottle Rocket distortion pedal (tube driven pedal that sounds EXACTLY like a recto just in a smaller package), you'd automatically have an excellent 2 channel amp with a beautiful clean and an awesome distortion channel. Add a few more effects before them and you'd have a perfect rig. So what's the incentive of buying a 3 channel monster like a hughes and Kettner Triamp or a Bogner Extacy with a 4x12 if you could get all you need out of something so tiny and affordable? Is there something a 4x12 has over something smaller even when it's miked? I say all this because on stage you have your keyboard/bass/other guitar player etc. complaining about your amp being too loud for the stage. The audience isn't hearing your amp anyway, they're listening to the mains. I'd rather hear what I sound like in the monitors anyway, so for those of you who have played huge shows, what do you think? Just thought I'd ask
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post #2 of 3 (permalink) Old 06-26-2005, 09:48 PM
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Re: different amp/cab options

Well as for close miking, the biggest difference is a 4x12 is (almost always) closed back and a 1x12 combo is open back. Put the 1x12 in front of a wall or close the back up (find a board the proper size) and they can record quite well.

Distant miking you will pick up more of a difference. The cabinet will still hold its low end where a 1x12 combo miked in the distance will have a lot of highs. Plus about an open back combo is you can stick a mic in the back of it.
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post #3 of 3 (permalink) Old 06-27-2005, 06:08 PM Thread Starter
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Re: different amp/cab options

well that makes a lot of sense. So pretty much if recording or in a live situation, it doesn't really matter what you have if you're doing close miking. Which means for me that I can get a cheaper combo rather than a huge head and still be loud enough for when I only have my amp but quiet enough to go through the mains and sound good without hurting my band's ears. Excellent.
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