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post #1 of 19 (permalink) Old 09-23-2003, 06:38 PM Thread Starter
 
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DS-1 hum

Whenever I turn on my Boss DS-1, I get a wicked hum from it. I'm just wondering if this is normal for the pedal, or if I could do something to it to reduce the hum. I love the sound out of it that I get when I have my amp distortion on too, but the hum when I'm not playing anything is annoying. Any thoughts?
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post #2 of 19 (permalink) Old 09-23-2003, 07:56 PM
 
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Welcome to Boss pedals. The only pedals that are worse are Digitech.
Most lower end pedals will give you a hum like that.
You may want to have it modded, though it will never completely go away.
You also may want to look into some high end pedals. But any time you are putting a "Gain/distortion" adder into the line, you will always get noise.
Even the TC Electronics Line Booster/Distortion adds a hum.
Just get a good noise gate, or buy an amp that will give you the distortion you want naturally.
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Yea... I only turn on the DS-1 when I play solos and such, just for the extra gain to get artificial harmonics to ring out more. Thanks for the input.......

What's a good type of noise gate?

Anyone know how Joe gets his DS-1's to sound so good? Or are they even real DS-1's?
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They are old Japanese DS-1 as oposed to the Taiwan (harsher sound) They might be moddified as well, not too sure. But they are definetly DS-1's.
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I figured his was real, but probably modified. Is there any way that I can modify mine?
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Re: DS-1 hum

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Whenever I turn on my Boss DS-1, I get a wicked hum from it. I'm just wondering if this is normal for the pedal, or if I could do something to it to reduce the hum. I love the sound out of it that I get when I have my amp distortion on too, but the hum when I'm not playing anything is annoying. Any thoughts?
It's easy to say "pedals suck" but this is not really normal and easily could be user error. What settings are you using? what other pedals are you simultaneously using? When used appropriately, the DS-1 is not really that noisy in regard to hum. But if you have all levels at 100%, 2-3 other pedals setup wrong and a noisy amp well then the DS-1 will magnify the problem... glen
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DS-1 hum

What Glen said. Also, couldn't it be a ground loop problem? How are you powering up the pedal (batteries or power supply)? Sometimes if you have different devices plugged into different outlets you can get a ground loop which generates a very loud hum. Just something to consider. There is a cheap solution to that problem (that is also a potentially dangerous one).

As for how Joe gets his to sound so good I would suggest that the use of his Marshall 6100 anniversary model head has something to do with it. He also makes heavy use of his Fulltone Ultimate Octave pedal as well. That being said, I did read somewhere that Vai gave Joe a couple of Keeley modified DS-1's. I don't know if Joe is actually using those, however.

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post #8 of 19 (permalink) Old 09-24-2003, 08:13 PM
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I use a the "One Spot" to power my Boss pedals.
Wah > DS1 > WH-1 > DD3 > amp
I get very little noise with that set-up
The guitar can also contribute to the amount of noise, so check
the connections and your general enviroment, such as monitors
and power outlets

Goto http://www.geocities.com/ome_ons/favguitars and listen to
some distortion samples
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Re: DS-1 hum

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I did read somewhere that Vai gave Joe a couple of Keeley modified DS-1's. I don't know if Joe is actually using those, however
yeah i read that Vai had a couple done, at least one of them was for satch.
but i think this was after his live dvd was done so i think that live stuff was a stock jap DS-1
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Well, I have all my pedals through power supply's and am using a daisy chain/ 5 effect power supply, so all the juice is from the same source. Also, on the DS-1, I have the level about at 5, the tone is at 1.5, and the gain at 4. So it isn't like I have everything up. I'm using a Mesa Boogie Single Rect-O-Verb, and the feedback from that isn't bad at all, it's almost non-existent. The only other pedals I simulataneously use, are the amp distortion, and a DD-5. Like I said I only turn on the DS-1 for an extra gain boost in solo situations.

Thanks for the help guys.......
Any other suggestions?
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post #11 of 19 (permalink) Old 09-29-2003, 04:38 PM
 
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Watch the power supply to the DS-1. Personally (In an Eric Johnson Stylee), I can hear hum from my Boss Power supply. With My rechargeable battery in there, the hum is non-existant. That's pretty remarkable since I've modded it a little
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Anyone know how Joe gets his DS-1's to sound so good? Or are they even real DS-1's?
Keep in mind that pedal sound different depending on the amp/rig...a nice fat sounding tube amp will make all the difference.
Greg
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post #13 of 19 (permalink) Old 09-29-2003, 05:07 PM Thread Starter
 
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I tihink that I may have found the problem. The other day I was playing through my pedal board, with the exact same setup as always, except on a Fender Hot Rod, and the hum was not their. So then it is probably due to my amp. However, they both are tube, obviously different company, different amp design and all. Anything I can do to get rid of it on the Boogie?
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Are you playing through the clean channels on both amps or which channel do you normally use?
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Normally I use the Boogie. It hums on both channels, obviously not as bad on the clean channel, due to less gain. On the Fender though, I don't own it, just played on it yesterday, it didn't hum on the clean channel. I didn't try the Crunch because I can't stand the Distortion on Fender Tube amps. Not to offend anyone, just my personal preference.
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