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post #1 of 21 (permalink) Old 06-06-2006, 08:41 AM Thread Starter
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How loud is a dual recto?

Okay, once I get enough money I'm thinking of getting a dual rectifier. I only play in my room and do recording. I use a Line6 Flextone III and rarely go above 90 dB (9:00 on the master knob). How loud exactly is a dual rectifier? I want to keep my ears/my family's ears/my walls intact, so I don't want to go too loud.

The other thing is, I played a single recto in store, and, playing quite quietly I found that it was a bit trebly and didn't have much low end, though I was playing the store's Epiphone LP with stock pups, I played the same amp before with my guitar which has Evos in it and it was more bassy. On my Flextone is use a triple recto setting and there is plenty of bass, and the dual on my flextone sounds quite weak, though I can't compare that to a real one entirely. What is the low end like generally speaking on a dual recto?
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post #2 of 21 (permalink) Old 06-06-2006, 08:58 AM
 
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Re: How loud is a dual recto?

erm, a dual recto head, even the 50w one is gonna be loud. pretty damn loud. ott for bedroom use i would say. if you really want a mesa, try one of the smaller combos if you're gonna be in your house alot, these have buckets of tone, but much quieter. i have played through two i think at gigs, and they were great sounding too. one was a mark III combo, the other was an F30 Combo. that's just my two pence.
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Re: How loud is a dual recto?

You mentioned the wattage...my Flextone is 75 watts, though it's solid state, so does that mean that you can't compare it volume wise?
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Re: How loud is a dual recto?

Well volume and wattage are not fair comparisons. An example is a Matchless 30 watt amp that puts stacks to shame or my little 60 watt peavey 5150 combo that is louder than a 100 watt marshall. There are a great many factors to consider. First tubes are LOUD. Louder than SS. And most volume happens at the cab and speaker. A good cab will be louder than a cheap one. And yes a 50 watt Mesa will be louder than a 75 watt Line6. And a 100 watt will be loud enough to fill a stadium by itself.
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post #5 of 21 (permalink) Old 06-06-2006, 10:20 AM Thread Starter
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Re: How loud is a dual recto?

Right. But when people say a tube amp is loud, what exactly does that mean? Because they have volume controls obviously...does it mean they sound weak at low volumes?
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Re: How loud is a dual recto?

they definately come into their own at louder levels. that is because a tube power section is 'driven' harder the louder you turn it up. a solid state power section just gets louder. i don't know the phsics or psychoacoustics behind it really, but of a valve and solid state amp of comparable wattage, a valve amp will be percieved as louder. my marshall dsl100 sounds awesome at half way. my laney 50w supergroup valve head sounds brilliant wound all the way up, but it would kill you if you stood near it. its that loud.
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Re: How loud is a dual recto?

I know a bloke who bought a recto head and cab for gigs, and when he plays in his room it's completely wasted. He bought a smaller combo for room playing. I've got an ENGL Screamer 50 combo mainly for room, and a few gigs, with more in view. I really recommend you check ENGL out, amazing amps that go pretty cheap second hand, about half shop price. I tried this next to an F50 and F30, and preferred the ENGL. But look at the recto combos, a half stach wold be completely pointless unless you are VERY soundproofed and have amazing neighbours like mine, who encourage me to turn UP!!!!!!!! : )
Legends... so yush. Combos are the way to go!!!!! Anything valve should do you fine and sound great. Actually, I'm selling a JCM 900 combo...... lol
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post #8 of 21 (permalink) Old 06-06-2006, 04:16 PM Thread Starter
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Re: How loud is a dual recto?

How about a roadster?
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Re: How loud is a dual recto?

not as loud as a Marshall
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Re: How loud is a dual recto?

Well i use my jcm900 head (50 watts, with a 2x12) at home too, and i can get some pretty decent sounds out of it at bedroom levels...

Still not as good as turned to 10 of course, but pretty good useable sounds...
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Re: How loud is a dual recto?

A Dual Recifier is too loud to use at home and sound like its supposed to sound. As folks have said its also a LOT about the cabinet and the Recto cabs with their armour plating are very heavy giving a very solid sound. There's a lot of bass available from a Recto half-stack

For recording at home you're probably better off sticking with your line 6 than forking out for a Mesa Rig for bedroom use.

If you want loud though, Soldano SLO100. That's just silly-loud

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Re: How loud is a dual recto?

(how loud is a dual recto?)

-REALY loud
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Re: How loud is a dual recto?

There's a short and simple three word answer to this - PRETTY ****ING LOUD!!!
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Re: How loud is a dual recto?

Does the same sort of thing apply to a 2x12" Roadster combo? It is 50/100 watts.
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Re: How loud is a dual recto?

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Does the same sort of thing apply to a 2x12" Roadster combo? It is 50/100 watts.
It will still be very loud indeed. Rectos need to cranked up to get good sound. For bedroom use your really just better of sticking with the Line 6.
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